Istanbul CL Final chaos | City Matters statement (p 133)

The yellow area was the car park / fan zone, the roads to the right weren't being used by anyone bar the VIPS! Who decided that this was the sensible thing to do! It was literally a dirt track. Can't take lighters into the stadium but you can fill your pockets full of rubble! 1686559617670.png
 
A young fainted on our bus as the air con was dog shit basically. Hopped on the bus (no seating left so stood with my 9 year old) at 12:45am and finally got into Yenikapi at 3:30am. then walked to the tube station only to find we had just missed one so had to wait another half an hour. Finally rolled in at 5am and had to be up at 7:30am to catch a flight. Fucking shambles from UEFA. The fanzone was a fucking farce as well particularly where food was concerned and then most stands ran out of beer. The ground had over an hour queue to get water or a soft drink and was a shitshow experience really, UEFA deserve all the shit they get. Pricks.
 
It’s just bollocks from UEFA isn’t it?
I arrived at 4pm on Friday at SAW and used the metro/marmoray to get to my hotel at Yenikapi. I arrived at 6pm and the service was really slick. Used the metro again on Friday evening to get to Taksim for a drink and something to eat. Used the metro again on Saturday to get to and from the ground. It was absolutely packed, but it kept everybody moving. Used it again on Sunday to get back to the airport. I didn’t see any trouble between any fans. UEFA caused there own problems with there pathetic organisation.
I think UEFA knew exactly what they were doing. Payback for our utter contempt of them.
 
My experiences will be little different to the other 20k to 25k Blues that were there, such was the fucking shambles.

To get to a 90 minute game of football we had to drive to Stanstead from Manchester, fly to Istanbul, 2 nights in a hotel for the 3 of us, fly back from Istanbul to Copenhagen, Copenhagen to Edinburgh, drive from Edinburgh to Manchester. While we were there get from SAW airport to the ground via city centre and then back again, a very long way and a logistical nightmare due to how far the airport was from the city centre and the city centre to the ground. Total cost of the trip for me and my 2 sons I would guess over £3k, for 90 mins of football, hard to justify to the Mrs but she understands and we’d do it again.

However some of the shit we had to endure due to uefa’s pathetic arrangements of where they put the game and how clearly they put no proper arrangements in place -

Went on the metro to where the shuttle bus was meant to be at 4 pm, 6 hours before kick off and was told there would be a “2 to 3 hour wait at least” to get on one. So we went back to the metro station. As we got to the top of the steps at the station (I think it was Yanickapi or something) a load of Blues were shouting “pickpockets” and had surrounded 2 scrawny local lads. Next thing the 2 cunts pulled blades and started running and slashing at anyone and everyone including kids. This went on for 2 or 3 mins and not a single copper in sight. Eventually someone must have found a copper, and a bit later my youngest said he saw a copper with his arm round one of the stabbing pickpockets. It was only after about 10 mins that the coppers even took it seriously, twats, and I had a copper screaming in my face for trying to tell him what happened.

We then get on the metro and it was awful. Stop after stop more and more people piling on and not a single staff member to stop people crushing on. My youngest genuinely thought he was going to die. We had 12 stops like that, took nearly an hour. The next met journey (after we changed) wasn’t bad, and the final one (2 stops) to the ground was fine as there were staff controlling who could get through.

When we got to the stadium the security was fine but whoever decided to put the City fan zone a long way up a steep hill should have another think. When we got to the zone we decided a 30 minute queue to get in and listen to Wingman making a **** of himself just wasn’t worth it

We decided to go into the ground but what was noticeable was the huge police presence with armoured water cannons, machine guns and riot shields, mainly sat on the grass as they had fuck all to do - where were a few of those fuckers at the main metro station?

Getting into the ground was ok, 4 different frisks but I quite enjoyed that! However once inside the ground we needed water, we had been about 4 hours just to get from city centre to ground on a hot afternoon, we were fucking exhausted and dehydrated. Queued for an hour, got to the front and was given 3 water containers less than half the size of the kiora you used to get at the cinema and was told “7 euros 50”. I told him I didn’t have euros and said how much was it in Turkish lira given we were in Turkey, he said euros only, I said I need to give my kids some water and he just shrugged his shoulders the ****. To the Blue who said (and did), “I’ll get that for you pal”, go my undying thanks.

After the game and the celebrations we asked more than a dozen stewards which was the way to the shuttle buses and not a single one of them even knew, so what the point of them even being there was beyond me. One of the cunts even shoved me and it took a lot of self control not to whack him, but the number of machine guns in the vicinity caused me to see sense. We walked up the hill everyone else was going up and it was chaos, we walked around for an hour and saw in that time one bus that had SAW on it (the airport near where we were staying) which was obviously full, thank fuck no buses were moving as we had to continually squeeze between buses and couldn’t find any other SAW buses. Amazingly there wasn’t a single staff person there to assist, the only ones who were there were City ones for the official trips and sports world. After an hour I said to the boys fuck this let’s walk to the metro - so back down the hill, past the stadium (where all the dignitaries had been getting vip minibuses with no delays) and to the metro, another 30 minutes. At the metro there was nobody who could or would tell us which train to get and as far as we knew it was 4 changes and maybe 70+ miles to SAW. The first metro we got on went on for ages and stopped at somewhere not on the map we had, so we got off it. Fortunately there were 5 students who helped us (a Palestinian, a lad from Jordan, one from Egypt one from Yemen and one from Morocco) who didn’t have great English but did have great hearts - they said it’s a long way and at least 4 changes but they were going some of the way and come with them, which sorted 2 of the changes), belting lads. At the second change they took us to our line and said get on here and off at Mamaris or something like that. When we did and got to the other line the uefa travel passes no longer worked and the guy wouldn’t let us through. He spoke English but wouldn’t help us buy tickets so we couldn’t get through. We tried to work out what tickets we needed but 4 local youths kept coming up saying give us your money and we’ll get them for you, fuck off didn’t work so I said to my lads fuck this we’ll get a taxi. Went out of the station, not much around and certainly no taxi rank, so we had to hang around 20 mins and got one to stop, told him where we wanted to go, he said what sounded like that’s ursa (I now think he said Asia), that’s 100 euros, we said no way it’s that much and he just fucked off. Second one we stopped said 100 euros, we managed to get him to 70 euros and agreed 1500 Turkish lira. To be fair it was a long way, about 45 mins doing about 80 mph, no seat belts in the back though, scary. When we stopped his meter showed less than 400 trl but he wasn’t accepting less than 1500.

Near our shitty hotel was a petrol station so we get some drinks, it was gone 4 am and the only liquid we’d had since 3:30 pm was the tiny container at the ground paid for by a kind Blue.

Despite all this, which is nothing special considering what other Blues will have endured, I’d do the same again. But I don’t think an FOC like me (64) and a 14 and 16 year old should have to go through shite like that just to watch a football match. Any decent organisation hosting an event for nearly 80k people would do a proper risk assessment months in advance -

How many coaches?
Where is quickly available water?
How many trains?
How many train staff?
Are you deploying police at the key stations etc (or in fact just at the stadium and where Blues are drinking?)
Etc
Etc

Uefa will have done none of this as they simply don’t fucking care. I’ll be asking City what steps they took to make sure the proper safeguards were in place - but the reality is that City clearly didn’t do a proper risk assessment, and may say they are bothered but I doubt they really are. It’s fucking disgusting how we were treated.

Some positives as it was still a positive overall experience -

City won a champions league, that will hurt uefa a lot

To be there, particularly the roar when that goal went in, sends shivers down my back that I will never forget

The Inter fans were great - we ended up in the metros twice (to and from the stadium) and not one problem (apart from one who mentioned City’s spending - I tried to explain the 5 year net spend table to him but the language barrier prevented this), but I though the Inter fans were a credit to their club - they stayed at the end to acknowledge their team, they were great with us, I wouldn’t necessarily expect that from Italian fans, and by staying at the end they did something the rag twats couldnt

Those 5 Arab lads, top notch

And to be fair the Turks who weren’t trying to stab us, scam us in taxis or at train stations, or kill us on the roads, were generally ok

Overriding experience great, well done City, exhausted but happy. However anything uefa touch is fucking shit and corrupt, and Pep you beautiful bald bastard, I love you unconditionally, but please don’t ever ask me again not to boo the cunts.
 
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Saw that from above, it was astonishing how long nothing happened, a bloke in a dark suit on a phone for ages, dunno who he was calling but why he didn’t just send a paramedic up is pathetic. Anything uefa touch turns to absolute shit
Saw this from above. Glad to hear he's OK and just to add a bit of balance he was on oxygen with first aid within minutes. A lot lot quicker than had it happened on the street or outside the stadium.

RIP the fella against Blackburn some years ago, in our new stadium who died in his seat. City's response was negligent that day, banning supporters who tried to get assistance.
 
My experiences will be little different to the other 20k to 25k Blues that were there, such was the fucking shambles.

To get to a 90 minute game of football we had to drive to Stanstead from Manchester, fly to Istanbul, 2 nights in a hotel for the 3 of us, fly back from Istanbul to Copenhagen, Copenhagen to Edinburgh, drive from Edinburgh to Manchester. While we were there get from SAW airport to the ground via city centre and then back again, a very long way and a logistical nightmare due to how far the airport was from the city centre and the city centre to the ground. Total cost of the trip for me and my 2 sons I would guess over £3k, for 90 mins of football, hard to justify to the Mrs but she understands and we’d do it again.

However some of the shit we had to endure due to uefa’s pathetic arrangements of where they put the game and how clearly they put no proper arrangements in place -

Went on the metro to where the shuttle bus was meant to be at 4 pm, 6 hours before kick off and was told there would be a “2 to 3 hour wait at least” to get on one. So we went back to the metro station. As we got to the top of the steps at the station (I think it was Yanickapi or something) a load of Blues were shouting “pickpockets” and had surrounded 2 scrawny local lads. Next thing the 2 cunts pulled blades and started running and slashing at anyone and everyone including kids. This went on for 2 or 3 mins and not a single copper in sight. Eventually someone must have found a copper, and a bit later my youngest said he saw a copper with his arm round one of the stabbing pickpockets. It was only after about 10 mins that the coppers even took it seriously, twats, and I had a copper screaming in my face for trying to tell him what happened.

We then get on the metro and it was awful. Stop after stop more and more people piling on and not a single staff member to stop people crushing on. My youngest genuinely thought he was going to die. We had 12 stops like that, took nearly an hour. The next met journey (after we changed) wasn’t bad, and the final one (2 stops) to the ground was fine as there were staff controlling who could get through.

When we got to the stadium the security was fine but whoever decided to put the City fan zone a long way up a steep hill should have another think. When we got to the zone we decided a 30 minute queue to get in and listen to Wingman making a **** of himself just wasn’t worth it

We decided to go into the ground but what was noticeable was the huge police presence with armoured water cannons, machine guns and riot shields, mainly sat on the grass as they had fuck all to do - where were a few of those fuckers at the main metro station?

Getting into the ground was ok, 4 different frisks but I quite enjoyed that! However once inside the ground we needed water, we had been about 4 hours just to get from city centre to ground on a hot afternoon, we were fucking exhausted and dehydrated. Queued for an hour, got to the front and was given 3 water containers less than half the size of the kiora you used to get at the cinema and was told “7 euros 50”. I told him I didn’t have euros and said how much was it in Turkish lira given we were in Turkey, he said euros only, I said I need to give my kids some water and he just shrugged his shoulders the ****. To the Blue who said (and did), “I’ll get that for you pal”, go my undying thanks.

After the game and the celebrations we asked more than a dozen stewards which was the way to the shuttle buses and not a single one of them even knew, so what the point of them even being there was beyond me. One of the cunts even shoved me and it took a lot of self control not to whack him, but the number of machine guns in the vicinity caused me to see sense. We walked up the hill everyone else was going up and it was chaos, we walked around for an hour and saw in that time one bus that had SAW on it (the airport near where we were staying) which was obviously full, thank fuck no buses were moving as we had to continually squeeze between buses and couldn’t find any other SAW buses. Amazingly there wasn’t a single staff person there to assist, the only ones who were there were City ones for the official trips and sports world. After an hour I said to the boys fuck this let’s walk to the metro - so back down the hill, past the stadium (where all the dignitaries had been getting vip minibuses with no delays) and to the metro, another 30 minutes. At the metro there was nobody who could or would tell us which train to get and as far as we knew it was 4 changes and maybe 70+ miles to SAW. The first metro we got on went on for ages and stopped at somewhere not on the map we had, so we got off it. Fortunately there were 5 students who helped us (a Palestinian, a lad from Jordan, one from Egypt one from Yemen and one from Morocco) who didn’t have great English but did have great hearts - they said it’s a long way and at least 4 changes but they were going some of the way and come with them, which sorted 2 of the changes), belting lads. At the second change they took us to our line and said get on here and off at Mamaris or something like that. When we did and got to the other line the uefa travel passes no longer worked and the guy wouldn’t let us through. He spoke English but wouldn’t help us buy tickets so we couldn’t get through. We tried to work out what tickets we needed but 4 local youths kept coming up saying give us your money and we’ll get them for you, fuck off didn’t work so I said to my lads fuck this we’ll get a taxi. Went out of the station, not much around and certainly no taxi rank, so we had to hang around 20 mins and got one to stop, told him where we wanted to go, he said what sounded like that’s ursa (I now think he said Asia), that’s 100 euros, we said no way it’s that much and he just fucked off. Second one we stopped said 100 euros, we managed to get him to 70 euros and agreed 1500 Turkish lira. To be fair it was a long way, about 45 mins doing about 80 mph, no seat belts in the back though, scary. When we stopped his meter showed less than 400 trl but he wasn’t accepting less than 1500.

Near our shitty hotel was a petrol station so we get some drinks, it was gone 4 am and the only liquid we’d had since 3:30 pm was the tiny container at the ground paid for by a kind Blue.

Despite all this, which is nothing special considering what other Blues will have endured, I’d do the same again. But I don’t think an FOC like me (64) and a 14 and 16 year old should have to go through shite like that just to watch a football match. Any decent organisation hosting an event for nearly 80k people would do a proper risk assessment months in advance -

How many coaches?
Where is quickly available water?
How many trains?
How many train staff?
Are you deploying police at the key stations etc (or in fact just at the stadium and where Blues are drinking?)
Etc
Etc

Uefa will have done none of this as they simply don’t fucking care. I’ll be asking City what steps they took to make sure the proper safeguards were in place - but the reality is that City clearly didn’t do a proper risk assessment, and may say they are bothered but I doubt they really are. It’s fucking disgusting how we were treated.

Some positives as it was still a positive overall experience -

City won a champions league, that will hurt uefa a lot

To be there, particularly the roar when that goal went in, sends shivers down my back that I will never forget

The Inter fans were great - we ended up in the metros twice (to and from the stadium) and not one problem (apart from one who mentioned City’s spending - I tried to explain the 5 year net spend table to him but the language barrier prevented this), but I though the Inter fans were a credit to their club - they stayed at the end to acknowledge their team, they were great with us, I wouldn’t necessarily expect that from Italian fans, and by staying at the end they did something the rag twats couldnt

Those 5 Arab lads, top notch

And to be fair the Turks who weren’t trying to stab us, scam us in taxis or at train stations, or kill us on the roads, were generally ok

Overriding experience great, well done City, exhausted but happy. However anything uefa touch is fucking shit and corrupt, and Pep you beautiful bald bastard, I love you unconditionally, but please don’t ever ask me again not to boo the cunts.
Great post mate. Sounds like a nightmare but glad you got back safe. You'll forget all the bad memories eventually and retain the good ones.
 
A bloke on the row behind me lost consciousness. Loads of blues screaming for medical assistance and the stewards and other stadium staff and police on the running track area were all just looking over but not doing much.

Took a fair while for any medical staff in the stadium to get to the bloke.

A few blues who were either nurses or doctors tried to assist. Thankfully he regained consciousness once administered oxygen and he was put in a medical chair to be carried up the steps for further attention. They nearly dropped the poor bloke too.

He reappeared for the 2nd half to claps from all the blues around him and saw us win the European Cup so it all ended well but the speed at which the officials reacted was pretty poor.

One young blue was particularly good at getting the attention of the stewards and was rightly very angry at their response.
Was this in 326? Was further back and could see loads of blues trying to get attention and the useless cunts at the front just looking over and doing fuck all.
Same outside. Hundred of police and traffic police stood and sat around playing on their phones and smoking. They were good at getting their deliveroos though.

In the fan park I saw 3 coppers just sat on one of the tables and wouldn’t get off their lazy arses for fans to have a seat.
 
I was talking to my son yesterday, he went to the Liverpool final in 2005(?) in Istanbul and I was saying about the problems you all had. He said it was the same for them, walking across the 'waste land' (his words) for miles. Luckily they didn't have problems with water but he said it was total shambles. I remember they ended up having to stay an extra night because they couldn't get back to the airport in time for their plane because of the chaos!!

So how the heck did UEFA assign the final to Istanbul again?




I apologise for my son being a Liverpool supporter, I went wrong somewhere with him!!! :-)
I was messaging a Liverpool fan just before and he was laughing that he couldn't believe no one had addressed any of the problems from 15 years ago.
 

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