Istanbul CL Final chaos | City Matters statement (p 133)

east2 said:
We the fans that suffered this shit show need to come together to drive this,unfortunately,
The British media and radio silence from City, have buried this already!
The Daily mail ran a small article 3/4 down its sport page yesterday, that disappeared after lunchtime, Talkshite ran a five minute article about “Man City fans claims” of UEFA & the stadium not being fit for purpose.
The contrast between last year and this years media coverage is startling,
I’m afraid we’re already going to have to go it alone on this one…
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Where do you want to go it to?

Yes it was shit and there has been criticism - just do a search.
The person who did the due diligence and signed off on this venue (although I liked the feel of the stadium once in) should be sacked.
Knowing they had this event for such a long time, the Turkish authorities should have closed the roads to the ground to all but match traffic.
The very least you'd have thought they'd have done - was throw a bit of tarmac down on the car-parks and surrounds.

But let's not get too dipper about this.

There were many plus points and no trouble, the police weren't heavy handed and I assume we all made it home eventually and feeling very happy.

Chalk it down as a bad experience combined with a magical one.

Although they probably won't acknowledge it - lessons will gradually be learned.

A particular highlight was a load of blues pissing behind trees on a central reservation, only yards from the turnstiles - suddenly being chased by a herd of goats.

Life experiences - good and bad and bizarre, all in one evening.
 
Dobsy said:
"Ultimately, everything boils down to two main points: The 2023 UEFA Champions League final should not have been held at the Ataturk Olympic Stadium, and that UEFA have absolutely no consideration for supporter safety and welfare."

The last point sickens me. It's only luck that meant nobody vulnerable died in that car park, it was a physical trial for me and I ran a marathon a couple of months ago.
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Exactly this! I am an active 60 year old. I stood for 15 hours from queueing for the bus right to getting back into Istanbul. Did UEFA consider this would have to happen. I saw other fans having to sit down on the coach, having to stand on the coach because sitting down to long was hard for them. I saw some having to sit during the game because they could stand no more. All the problems were down to the two main problems above.
 
Greenandblue said:
In fairness to Sly News, this is a pretty good bit of advocacy for the fans
www.skysports.com

'UEFA have to think about the fans' | Kaveh Solhekol shares his first-hand UCL final experience

Sky Sports News chief reporter Kaveh Solhekol says UEFA need to learn from fans' experiences at the last few Champions League finals.
www.skysports.com
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It's very hard to make UEFA do anything when they quite frankly don't give a fuck about any fans, you can guarantee that the food for the great and the good and transport out of the venue was laid on.

Fans should stick together and not trust UEFA or even MCFC football club, have they commented yet even?
 
Dobsy said:
"Ultimately, everything boils down to two main points: The 2023 UEFA Champions League final should not have been held at the Ataturk Olympic Stadium, and that UEFA have absolutely no consideration for supporter safety and welfare."

The last point sickens me. It's only luck that meant nobody vulnerable died in that car park, it was a physical trial for me and I ran a marathon a couple of months ago.
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absolutely.
i dont wanna involve much, but i cant stop myself. the thing is:
turkey wants to hold european championships for years. (again probably strongest candidate for 2028, will be decided in october). anyway, again turkey was the stongest candidate for 2020 or 2024 i cant remember. then something happened behind the doors; and uefa did not gave euros to turkey. turkey is pushing too much; and uefa gave a super cup final in 2019 and a champs league final as a consolotion.
it is stupidity to push that much to hold champs league final in that shitty stadium. now,normally, they risk their chance to hold euro 2028 after those incidents happened... but i dont think UEFA cares, as you know. other lobbies (you understand what i am talking about) are important to hold those organizations. Uefa or Fifa are worse (rotten) than any government on earth.
 
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Dobsy said:
"Ultimately, everything boils down to two main points: The 2023 UEFA Champions League final should not have been held at the Ataturk Olympic Stadium, and that UEFA have absolutely no consideration for supporter safety and welfare."

The last point sickens me. It's only luck that meant nobody vulnerable died in that car park, it was a physical trial for me and I ran a marathon a couple of months ago.
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The buses slowly nudging forward jockeying for position to get out of the car park. They also had a lot of fans walking between them in a poorly lit area, it was lucky no one was crushed to death in between them. I saw the gap between two buses I was going to walk between but decided to go the long way round. Nothing will get done about what happened before and after the game unfortunately.
 
they won't give a fuck because there was nobody required to be pepper sprayed, tear gassed or walloped by a riot cop, now if we were dippers on the other hand all hell would have broke loose with the army deployed and a full inquiry followed by compo for the fans
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
Thanks for all your help Alex. We were on the day trip that City organised via Sportsworld. Those that were on the 3:30am return flights were always concerned that if the game went to ET and penalties that we’d struggle getting back by 2:45am when they said check-in would be closed. UEFA said on their app that the tour operators had to book a bus shuttle back to the airport AND said those buses would be waiting for us. Then, on the flight, we were given wrist straps to identify which flights we were on so we would be prioritised for the shuttles. Clearly none of this happened but I think there’s a good chance that us on these flights triggered or exacerbated the lack of queuing because we all seemed to be looking for our “reserved” coaches rather than the end of a queue.

My point is that UEFA were clearly aware that the timeframes were tight before factoring in the chaos but then didn’t do anything about it.
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I did wander what the point of them wristbands were. No chance we were getting on any kind of special reserved bus. I actually found myself and my lad very lucky to be passing one after wandering around for ages , and its doors suddenly opening and lighting up with IST AIRPORT wrote on. That journey was an endurance test to say the least. God help anyone with health conditions, disabled or the elderly.
 
I think throwing in matchday experience gripes at City in with the shitshow that was Istanbul is unfair and unproductive. Istanbul showed me how good we have it in Manchester, to be honest. I don't mind queuing for a shuttle bus, the problem is there wasn't a queue or discernable system. Istanbul was borderline criminal, and actively discriminating to any fan with seen or unseen disabilities, pregnant women, and older or younger fans. This is 100% on UEFA rather than City.
 
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