It’s Quiet 20 - What is the Wirtz that could happen?

[bell_mcfc]

That’s what we need.

Called der Rasenmäher (the lawnmower) in Germany a reason.

 

[Dr Jacoby]

I wonder how a peak Nigel de Jong would do in our midfield right now.

Even at his peak he wouldn’t be good enough on the ball for Pep.

 

[mancboy]

Ornstein said football is changing. Omar marmoush is seen as too old by other top clubs in the league. The clubs in the league according to Ornstein want young players with high potential under 23 as they have a higher sell on probability. So these Cbs we are signing will become the norm. Most probably players we sign will be u23 most of the time

I see the idea but i dont understand who we are selling too? we are one of the richest, most revenue generating clubs in world football and if we are buying players with the idea of big sell on value who are we supposed to sell em too? Saudi?

 

[Roachy]

Yesterday I saw a superb attacking performance undermined by a massive hole in the middle of the pitch.

We don't need much, but what we do need is glaring.

So are you in the "1 or 2 is all we need" camp?

 

[blueparrot]

That’s what we need.

Nothing like what we need.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

That’s what we need.

He really isn’t. He has one quality we need (duel-winning), but nothing else. They also need to be good on the ball and most crucially, they need to eat up the ground. They need to have energy, the legs to get up and down, so as to compliment Rodri and balance out his weaknesses. A player like De Jong has none of that, he only has the ability to compete for challenges and nothing else. Very limited player.

 

[Bluewonder]

So are you in the "1 or 2 is all we need" camp?

Stick a quality central midfielder and Rodri in yesterday's team and we're challenging for the league next year.

Add in Marmoush for an aging KDB and Dias/ Stones for Nunes and we're winning the league.

 

[Mancini’s Pastilles]

I haven’t seen them enough to judge, but are they better than what we currently have?

No one knows. And 99 percent of this forum hadn't heard of them until the likes of romano started tweeting about them

 

[Roachy]

Stick a quality central midfielder and Rodri in yesterday's team and we're challenging for the league next year.

Add in Marmoush for an aging KDB and Dias/ Stones for Nunes and we're winning the league.

Highly doubtful with ageing players being a year older, some players not up to it, other players maybe lost their hunger etc. Big overhaul required and it's plainly obvious.

 

[Bluewonder]

Highly doubtful with ageing players being a year older, some players not up to it, other players maybe lost their hunger etc. Big overhaul required and it's plainly obvious.

The aging players in yesterday's team would be replaced by the '1 or 2' I described.

Why do you think we need a big overhaul?

Are Foden and Haaland not superb players?

Isn't Savio looking like an excellent talent?

Are Dias, Ake, Akanji and Gvardiol not excellent defenders with several years left in them?

We have one issue. It's fucking massive, but it's one issue.

 

[bitterblue78]

Weve had since mid september to idenify a defencive midfielder, get him signed and registered. Total incompitance yet again

 

[supercity88]

Exactly. Half the squad is fucked physically and mentally. How is more games going to help, especially if we end up being battered?

A lot of that team last night had a break at the weekend, why are they fucked physically and mentally? If they are, sub them! We've got loads of options available in attacking areas now, Pep needs to stop picking them if they can't put the effort in. A major part of our success, alongside the talent of the players and tactics from the manager, was the workrate which was always superb. That's gone out the window and whilst injuries/fatigue were a valid excuse a month or so ago they don't remain one now.

Compare the likes of Foden, Savinho and De Bruyne to the minutes played by Salah or some of those Brentford players.

We've got some talented youngsters who would run their socks off if picked. Foden was full of energy when it came to getting his 2nd goal, but in the first half he barely got into a jog when it came to tracking back and defending. Pep would have dragged him off at HT in previous seasons.

 

[Roachy]

The aging players in yesterday's team would be replaced by the '1 or 2' I described.

Why do you think we need a big overhaul?

Are Foden and Haaland not superb players?

Isn't Savio looking like an excellent talent?

Are Dias, Ake, Akanji and Gvardiol not excellent defenders with several years left in them?

We have one issue. It's fucking massive, but it's one issue.

1 or 2? It looks like we're potentially signing 3 this window so do you disapprove of this? Wait until the summer window arrives and people depart as well. 1 or 2, give it a rest.

 

[WRicko]

I haven’t seen them enough to judge, but are they better than what we currently have?

Nor have I would say it’s unlikely given the age leagues they have come from and the quality they have but they clearly the aim is for them to be key players eventually rather than sales

 

[Mancini’s Pastilles]

We have one issue. It's fucking massive, but it's one issue.

If youre referring to the loss of Rodri. Nope not buying it and sick of it as an excuse. Granted its a big factor. Are we admitting were a one man team so? Theres far more issues than just DM issue

 

[r.soleofsalford]

A lot of that team last night had a break at the weekend, why are they fucked physically and mentally? If they are, sub them! We've got loads of options available in attacking areas now, Pep needs to stop picking them if they can't put the effort in. A major part of our success, alongside the talent of the players and tactics from the manager, was the workrate which was always superb. That's gone out the window and whilst injuries/fatigue were a valid excuse a month or so ago they don't remain one now.

Compare the likes of Foden, Savinho and De Bruyne to the minutes played by Salah or some of those Brentford players.

We've got some talented youngsters who would run their socks off if picked. Foden was full of energy when it came to getting his 2nd goal, but in the first half he barely got into a jog when it came to tracking back and defending. Pep would have dragged him off at HT in previous seasons.

I like it if Phil actually got a tackle in.

 

[Coatigan]

I wonder how a peak Nigel de Jong would do in our midfield right now.

Pep would play Gundogan ahead of him.

 

[RayCTID]

Getting the correct midfield signing is the tricky part. Ederson could easily turn out as an expensive version of Fernando. That signing has to be similar quality of the currently injured Rodri (and he took time to fully acclimatise)

 

[Bluewonder]

1 or 2? It looks like we're potentially signing 3 this window so do you disapprove of this? Wait until the summer window arrives and people depart as well. 1 or 2, give it a rest.

Ortega

Akanji, Dias, Ake, Gvardiol

Rodri, new CM

Foden, KDB/ Marmoush, Savio

Haaland

That's 1 or 2.

 

[Bluewonder]

If youre referring to the loss of Rodri. Nope not buying it and sick of it as an excuse. Granted its a big factor. Are we admitting were a one man team so? Theres far more issues than just DM issue

I'm referring to the middle of the park generally as the big issue.

We haven't replaced Gundo and we've lost Rodri to injury. In combination, that is killing us.