Its Joe's turn now...! (MERGED)

Rahart said:
dannybcity said:
I honestly can't mate, it's his week off and he's on a stag do. Here's an article about Usain Bolt getting drunk;

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-23742444-usain-bolts-fast-becoming-a-regular-bar-hopper.do" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/a ... -hopper.do</a>

It's only newsworthy because it's England and City and they've decided to put a negative spin upon it. They could easily have gone with "Hart let's his hair down" or some reference to him being caught dancing on film (again). But England had a crap world cup and people being negative about England sells . He's obviously abit of a character and enjoys being the centre of attention, remember this?;

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGu14vZ6nqY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGu14vZ6nqY</a>

It's a nothing story and you shouldn't worry, he'll be back to top form against Blackpool no doubt and hopefully putting in another match winning performance. As for the Rooney question, if I'm that bored on a night out that I feel the need to film a rag dancing on a table on my phone then it's time to go home.
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But it's not his week off, he was playing for England in 3 days, as for the Bolt thing, he wasn't doing that 3 days before an important race.

I am amazed that the majority of people can't see anything wrong with this.
But my point is that a lot of football players are making this sport look a joke that players don't take seriously, who are only in it for the money.

He'd want to get back to that top form we saw against Spurs because we haven't seen it since, and on a serious note, he will be hung out to dry if he plays badly.
He needs to realise that the problem is the fact that he has just given Capello an even bigger headache. English international football players have gone and made themselves look like they don't give a shit and just look like they're a joke, Terry, Crouch, Rooney, the last thing Capello wanted was another bit of bad publicity from one of his players looking to not take it seriously. He's a very lucky guy that he's liked, for the moment he's the British media's golden boy, like I said had it been Rooney up on that table there would be a national outrage, because it's Hart though it'll probably make a splash but nothing else, unless he's an absolute howeler.

I stand by what I said he needs to grow up, he can't be acting like a kid anymore, despite the fact he's only 23, wont do. Act like a pro or deal with the consequences.

I think it is a big deal because I expect these guys to take it seriously. I'd be blue in the face annoyed had it been an Irish player.
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We haven't seen him getting bombarded with shots because our defence has been brilliant and bar one mad moment against Blackburn he has been pulling off great saves when he needs to though.
 
I will be concerned if he was causing trouble but what he is doing is harmless. He is still a young lad ffs.
 
carlos92 said:
I will be concerned if he was causing trouble but what he is doing is harmless. He is still a young lad ffs.
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Agreed, he's only 23 and I know that getting pissed and dancing on a bar with two blondes isn't by far the worse thing any of us have done, much, much worse in many occasions I'd guess. But my only point is that he needs to smarten up and realise that he can't go out and make a total show of himself ending up on the front of the paper.
If that's any normal 23 year old, it wouldn't make ya blink. Just some lad having a laugh, but in this case it's another English player not taking it sersiously. He needs to realise how much spotlight he's under and grow up a little. He'll get an earfull from Capello, who's had enough of English players making the team look like a joke because of off field carry ons, and probably Mancini will have a word as well. But this is something he needs to learn from.
 
Rahart said:
carlos92 said:
I will be concerned if he was causing trouble but what he is doing is harmless. He is still a young lad ffs.
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Agreed, he's only 23 and I know that getting pissed and dancing on a bar with two blondes isn't by far the worse thing any of us have done, much, much worse in many occasions I'd guess. But my only point is that he needs to smarten up and realise that he can't go out and make a total show of himself ending up on the front of the paper.
If that's any normal 23 year old, it wouldn't make ya blink. Just some lad having a laugh, but in this case it's another English player not taking it sersiously. He needs to realise how much spotlight he's under and grow up a little. He'll get an earfull from Capello, who's had enough of English players making the team look like a joke because of off field carry ons, and probably Mancini will have a word as well. But this is something he needs to learn from.
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I agree to a point because if he did it on a regular basis then it will be a problem. As you say both Capello and Mancini (like he has done with Johnson) will have a word but the press has done their usual blow it out of all proportion.
 
carlos92 said:
Rahart said:
Agreed, he's only 23 and I know that getting pissed and dancing on a bar with two blondes isn't by far the worse thing any of us have done, much, much worse in many occasions I'd guess. But my only point is that he needs to smarten up and realise that he can't go out and make a total show of himself ending up on the front of the paper.
If that's any normal 23 year old, it wouldn't make ya blink. Just some lad having a laugh, but in this case it's another English player not taking it sersiously. He needs to realise how much spotlight he's under and grow up a little. He'll get an earfull from Capello, who's had enough of English players making the team look like a joke because of off field carry ons, and probably Mancini will have a word as well. But this is something he needs to learn from.
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I agree to a point because if he did it on a regular basis then it will be a problem. As you say both Capello and Mancini (like he has done with Johnson) will have a word but the press has done their usual blow it out of all proportion.
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Ya true, the fact that the media got hold of it is the big problem for me.
I'm not crazy about him getting shitfaced a few days before the game, it's not ideal preperation, but what he does in his own time is his business, once it's not a regular thing and once he's fit and ready for our games, (whatever about England) but him getting recoreded and plastered on the papers, is the problem.

If the managers have no problem with him being out, that's one thing, but they, especially Capello, might well have a problem the fact that it's yet another English player all over the papers, looking like he doesn't give a shit, no respect for the game or the team..etc.
That's how the media have gone on a bit, thankfully he's a pretty well liked player so far, like I said, there would be a complete outrage if it was Rooney or Terry or someone.
And you know the media, if Hart has a shocking game he'll get grief from it, should have been training instead of on the piss, and if he doesn't it'll all be forgot about and the media will have something else to write about.

But either way, he needs to learn and learn fast.
 
Rahart said:
carlos92 said:
I agree to a point because if he did it on a regular basis then it will be a problem. As you say both Capello and Mancini (like he has done with Johnson) will have a word but the press has done their usual blow it out of all proportion.
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Ya true, the fact that the media got hold of it is the big problem for me.
I'm not crazy about him getting shitfaced a few days before the game, it's not ideal preperation, but what he does in his own time is his business, once it's not a regular thing and once he's fit and ready for our games, (whatever about England) but him getting recoreded and plastered on the papers, is the problem.

If the managers have no problem with him being out, that's one thing, but they, especially Capello, might well have a problem the fact that it's yet another English player all over the papers, looking like he doesn't give a shit, no respect for the game or the team..etc.
That's how the media have gone on a bit, thankfully he's a pretty well liked player so far, like I said, there would be a complete outrage if it was Rooney or Terry or someone.
And you know the media, if Hart has a shocking game he'll get grief from it, should have been training instead of on the piss, and if he doesn't it'll all be forgot about and the media will have something else to write about.

But either way, he needs to learn and learn fast.
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Both serial piss takers. Yep but it depends on what he got up at Birmingham City.
 
Rahart said:
it's yet another English player all over the papers, looking like he doesn't give a shit, no respect for the game or the team..etc.
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It's this bit of your argument that I just don't get. How on Earth has he shown he doesn't give a shit and has no respect for the game or his team? Some people just can't wait to be outraged.
 
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