It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

It's disingenuous to compare him to KDB, he's not that type of player. He's more like a Kroos/Yaya hybrid. Can stay deep and dictate play but also play that box-to-box role very well; as attested by his England performances.

I've read for Dortmund he's good as an attacking midfielder but goes missing when played deeper?

I was comparing him to KDB in that he was German player of the year before we got him.
 
Doing okay recently in fact he's keeping our very own superstar Foden out of the team.
Lmao this nonsense again. Foden is keeping Foden out. Foden is unfit and out of form.Grealish doesn't start over Fit Foden.
£100m for doing okay? Standards have droppee so low. Sterling was doing more than this yet getting slated left right and center
 
I don`t know what anyone else thinks but SSN coverage is getting worse by the day.
Currently having their say Leanne Sanderson and Jamie O`Hara, and it looks like it`s being filmed in Stretford Arndale.
Kinnell this Sanderson needs to slow down when she speaks she`s giving me a headache. And as for O`Hara he`s one thick specimen.
And then they have the "The Transfer Show" where 4 spotty brats just out of short pants sit round a table who know absolute fuck all about what`s going on.
I just cannot watch it. Transfers will happen whether those Buffon’s sit around a table or not.
 
Even more so, with Pep lighting a fire under him?

He's had Rodgers and still managed to shine.

Coming in to his prime years, relatively low price, homegrown, Premier League tested and a brilliant eye for a pass.

No brainer for the club, and reminds me a bit of Bruno Fernandes, minus the rat features.

Only issue for me would be his recent injuries.
see the many above replies. all what you say is good if he is bought to play about 10 games and used as a sub. else we need to look player better than maddison for our first 11. if we think he is our level then I am afraid we will be competing for top 6 soon rather than winning the title every year.
 
its a dreadful saying, the people that use it are usually twitter twats,
I don't mind the phrase in itself but it's applied horrendously. Every decent teenager or club's greatest player is deemed "generational".

Bellingham is not generational. Enzo Fernandez is not generational.
Mbappé and Haaland might be, but not quite yet.

I'd say there have probably been less than 10 generational players in the history of the sport.
Di Stefano, Puskás, Pelé, Cruyff, Maradona, Ronaldo, Messi - possibly Beckenbauer, possibly Yashin.
 
This logic is baffling.

James Ward-Prowse is the best free-kick taker in the world and Maddison's record is just 2% below.
Maddison is miles better outside of set pieces. But his free-kick taking is elite, far better than KDB, Mahrez or Gündogan.

I never said free-kick taking makes you world class. But his free-kick taking is world class.
We’d need free kicks first :-)
 
You've hit the nail on the head there!

People, fans get stuck in time when things were perfect.
We have a huge fanbase that is still stuck on nostalgia.

Some stuck in the Colin Bell, Mike Summersby era.
Some stuck in the Alan Ball, Frank Clark era.
Some stuck in the Bobby Manc era.
Some stuck in the peak Aguero Pellegrini era.
Some stuck in the Sane, Sterling era.
Some stuck in the post Aguero - false 9 Cancelo era.
And lots will be stuck in the Haaland era!

But Pep knows any system he comes up with has a shelf date before defenses adjust and the system has been found out and doesn't work anymore inspite of it winning titles.

So we morph into the next system that works with players that are skilled and those that have the personality to gel and not kick up a fuss if sitting out!
Yep and his ability to evolve and adapt is part of what makes him the best in the business
 
see the many above replies. all what you say is good if he is bought to play about 10 games and used as a sub. else we need to look player better than maddison for our first 11. if we think he is our level then I am afraid we will be competing for top 6 soon rather than winning the title every year.

Compete for top 6 is dramatic.

I don't think he's the quality to win multiple premier leagues and champions leagues.
 

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