It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

Tugay One Cup said:
Home town club, first choice, future captain and already a borderline legend with his own supporters.

I have no idea why he'd leave that to come sit on his arse for 70% of the season.
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Agreed mate, there is no positive in that move for him besides no doubt a pay rise but playing time would be next to nothing on what he has now and could affect his international place?
 
How about going to Leicester and try to buy JFE from them? He’s 34 now and will probably be happy to be 4th choice. 1 year left on his contract.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
The squad was too small last season. I don't understand how anyone would think making it smaller again would be a smart idea, short of placing too much faith in academy players and Pep's trust in them.
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Pep doesn't like to work with a bloated squad, but like you say in a world cup season we don't want to be in a situation that we are short on numbers due to injuries. Ake will be replaced, not so sure about Sterling though.
 
richards30 said:
Agreed mate, there is no positive in that move for him besides no doubt a pay rise but playing time would be next to nothing on what he has now and could affect his international place?
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Yep and I can guarantee that he's already had offers for a big pay day at other clubs around Spain and elsewhere.

Probably just in no rush to leave because he's living the dream where he is.
 
What about diaby or doku to replace sterling? Young hungry players who would no doubt love to work and improve under pep? Would cost the huge wages that gnabry wants either?
 
Withnail said:
Pep doesn't like to work with a bloated squad, but like you say in a world cup season we don't want to be in a situation that we are short on numbers due to injuries. Ake will be replaced, not so sure about Sterling though.
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Sterling I think we can possibly hold off for a year, depending on how we're planning on using fullbacks and wingers next season. Still leaves us pretty thin if we have a few injuries.

But yeah, not replacing Ake would just be asking for problems, especially with our track record of centreback injuries.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
Yep and I can guarantee that he's already had offers for a big pay day at other clubs around Spain and elsewhere.

Probably just in no rush to leave because he's living the dream where he is.
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Fair play to him as well for making that decision, playing every week, European competition and getting in the Spain squad as well while leaving in a beautiful city and sunny climate?
 
Blue tiger said:
Surely it would be more productive to play our own youngster in Palmer than buy this lad though? Gordon looks a fairly decent prospect, but he has been given game time. Maybe if we actually give our lads a chance like he has been, they'll step up to the mark.
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For me if it is a choice of Palmer or another team's young promising player, I'd rather see Palmer get the backing.

Likewise if the choice is Neymar or such a costly 30+ year old temporary fill, I'd happily see Palmer given a proper go.

Anything inbetween, I'd rather see an established experienced first team player replace Sterling and Jesus combined, which is a heck of an ask.


I think expectations of Palmer are way too high, and people will be disappointed. Seen it so many times before, Delap, THB, Tosin, Denayer, Rekik, Diaz and loads more. Even Foden. In the sense that after a handful of bit part appearences people expected him to just start games suddenly and replace David, when in reality he had a couple more seasons of building up appearences.

Players don't just 'break through' like some imagine Palmer will. They edge their way quietly into the team. They also do ut surrounded by a fully functioning team of regulars, not with a huge void to fill and responsibility on them to match record numbers. Hope Palmer does in the long run work his way to a regular for us, and a damn good one. But won't be a case of the club just trusting him to step up from 4 cameo appearances last season to replacing 90m+ worth of players.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
None of those players were in their physical primes and sold to league rivals.

I'm not all doom and gloom about losing any of them but there's quite a bit of context you've missed out there.
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That's fair enough. Sterling has been degrading in a City shirt and Ake is a fourth-choice centre-back.

Irrespective of their ages, perceived physical prime, my own (subjective) context is those players I did cite were key components and we still kept on winning.

Sterling and Ake are not, and they are replaceable.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
That's fair enough. Sterling has been degrading in a City shirt and Ake is a fourth-choice centre-back.

Irrespective of their ages, perceived physical prime, my own (subjective) context is those players I did cite were key components and we still kept on winning.

Sterling and Ake are not, and they are replaceable.
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I think our problem is that the club is so quiet about their transfers that we don’t really know what they’re planning.
 
been hearing for weeks now that "an agreement with chelsea is close" in the media when are they gonna stop being cheapskates and pay up? time's ticking
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
They will get Sterling, Ake is also defo up for it.

Will be over £100m.

Certainly think Raheem will be sooner rather than later now.

Ake is clearly a back up option but Chelsea are desperate, so can actually see him going for more than Sterling!
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They're after De Ligt as Ake is too expensive apparently.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Sterling has been degrading in a City shirt and Ake is a fourth-choice centre-back.
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This is true but they're also improvements on what Chelsea have in those positions.

We shouldn't be too bothered with the direct impact on our squad but it is unfortunate that a league rival is going to directly benefit from them leaving us.

As you say, they can be replaced. I just hope that they will be.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
That's fair enough. Sterling has been degrading in a City shirt and Ake is a fourth-choice centre-back.

Irrespective of their ages, perceived physical prime, my own (subjective) context is those players I did cite were key components and we still kept on winning.

Sterling and Ake are not, and they are replaceable.
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I have said this before ake, Sterling, Gabby, fernandinho and zinc are all great players and offer alot to our club but none were automatic starters for us last season. We have haaland, alvarez and Philips already in and cucurella looks likely plus mcatee and palmer looking to be more involved in the first team maybe give Doyle or mbete the responsibility of 4th choice or bring back denayer on a free. Boys we have already smashed this window chill.
 
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
That's fair enough. Sterling has been degrading in a City shirt and Ake is a fourth-choice centre-back.

Irrespective of their ages, perceived physical prime, my own (subjective) context is those players I did cite were key components and we still kept on winning.

Sterling and Ake are not, and they are replaceable.
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Don't see the point in replacing Ake, its an area we have always struggled with and he's good enough. Sterling can go, we have enough cover for him and at a decent price it makes sense.
 
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