It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

[skillman]

Listening to Why Always Us podcast, Sam Lee gets a text telling him that City made an offer to bring Maddison in today, loan with option to buy which Leicester rejected.

On a lesser note...Ciao Cancelo is a lovely pun.

 

[supercity88]

I wasn't having a go at Walker's quality.

I was making a flippant point that Maddison and Chilwell are sick notes.

As Walker has been injured this season I just said they'd be joining him in the treatment room.

Gundogan was a sick note too and he's done okay for us. Maddison and Chilwell are both players who would improve us and I'd be happy with the club signing them if the price is right and there are no alternatives offering better value.

The performances of our players, at least in terms of assessment on this forum, can depend a lot on how much we paid for the player and where they came from. Alvarez for example is very highly rated, works very hard yet Torres was often criticised for having very little impact and not being good enough. Both have the same scoring rate for City so far at 1 in 3 games, and Torres is a year younger. Mahrez was our top scorer last season and in really good form at the moment, but one bad game and people will ignore that and go back to him missing a penalty at Anfield or against West Ham. We just have tunnel vision with certain players.

We were talking about Akanji being the buy of the summer initially, and then his form dipped and then it's "now we know why Dortmund let him go". The transfer market is mental. Caicedo at Brighton is never a £60m or £70m player. They bought him for £4m. Gordon is never a £45m player. Fernandez at £100m is madness too. There are deals out there though, if we keep operating the way we are.

 

[Agueroooo9320]

We have had scouts at numerous porto games this season, I always imagined because of Octavio.

hope so. will be a good move

 

[argyle]

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised if we sign him.

People told me the same about Phillips when I said he was mediocre and injury prone.

Maddison is capable of scoring lovely goals but he isn't on the level of Bernardo, KDB etc.

We should keep at the levels of Bernardo and KDB and not regress with getting nice, decent-ish players.

But it seems that's the way the club want to go.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised if we sign him.

Even more so, with Pep lighting a fire under him?

He's had Rodgers and still managed to shine.

Coming in to his prime years, relatively low price, homegrown, Premier League tested and a brilliant eye for a pass.

No brainer for the club, and reminds me a bit of Bruno Fernandes, minus the rat features.

Only issue for me would be his recent injuries.

 

[kun]

People told me the same about Phillips when I said he was mediocre and injury prone.

Maddison is capable of scoring lovely goals but he isn't on the level of Bernardo, KDB etc.

We should keep at the levels of Bernardo and KDB and not regress with getting nice, decent-ish players.

But it seems that's the way the club want to go.

I mean no one could do anything if they are injured.

Maddison is a much better footballer technically than Phillips, and his injury record isn't nearly as bad.

 

[skillman]

What levers they had pulled for that?

Probably had to pull one to make the phonecall. Cheap fuckers.

Had the money to splash in the Summer on other players but not on Bernardo yet he still has his knickers wet for them. Have some self-worth Bernie lad!!

 

[Homar]

We have no left-backs, but we’re trying to sign a second-rate midfielder. Just typical.

 

[John Wayne]

Even more so, with Pep lighting a fire under him?

He's had Rodgers and still managed to shine.

Coming in to his prime years, relatively low price, homegrown, Premier League tested and a brilliant eye for a pass.

No brainer for the club, and reminds me a bit of Bruno Fernandes, minus the rat features.

Only issue for me would be his recent injuries.

Think we'll be waiting until the summer for this one, if it does indeed happen. Did City really expect Leicester to accept a loan bid?

 

[kun]

FWIW Maddison is one of the best free-kick takers around.

James Maddison is close to Ward-Prowse in terms of goalscoring stats.

Maddison = 14 direct goals from last 100 free-kicks taken
Ward-Prowse = 16 direct goals from last 100 free-kicks taken

 

[Bill]

Hopefully they like him still.

no.

 

[pudge]

Felt like Christmas hearing Cancelo was going

Now feel like I've been kicked in the bollocks hearing this Maddison nonsense

 

[DATOIA]

For a senior squad of 17 players, you think we will probably lose 4 and gain 2, so we would have 15 senior players?

Ederson
Walker Stones Ruben NewLB
Rodri
KDB NewLCM
Foden Haaland Grealish

Ortega
Lewis Akanji Ake Gomes
Phillips
Perone Gundo
Mahrez Alvarez Palmer

 

[Brewster's millions]

I mean no one could do anything if they are injured.

Maddison is a much better footballer technically than Phillips, and his injury record isn't nearly as bad.

Evel Knievel has got a better injury record than Phillips.

Not sure we should be using Kalvin Phillips as the benchmark for our future transfers.

 

[kun]

"just sign a left back"
Signs Gomez

"just sign a natural left back"
Mendy, Angeliño flop horrendously

"just sign a left back who can attack as well as any left back in the world and can also defend as well as any left back in the world"
This player literally does not exist.

 

[argyle]

I mean no one could do anything if they are injured.

Maddison is a much better footballer technically than Phillips, and his injury record isn't nearly as bad.

I think they are both mediocre to decent and are best left for Leicester, Spurs, Villa, Everton etc.

All the resources the club has and our scouts still pop up with some players destined for midtable.

Phillips, Gomez and then Maddison, really? We can surely do better?

 

[Agueroooo9320]

Thank you.

Maddison is overrated because he is English. Yet Bellingham isn't.

It doesn't make sense.

well who said bellingam isn't overrated? surprise he is overrated. people here think he is somehow going to be a upgrade on gundo and bernardo when he has so many holes in his game and will require lots of learning; no way is he worth more than enzo who is already a complete player. but atleast bellingham is young and has potential and seems to have the correct mentality.

 

[kun]

Ederson
Walker Stones Ruben NewLB
Rodri
KDB NewLCM
Foden Haaland Grealish

Ortega
Lewis Akanji Ake Gomes
Phillips
Perone Gundo
Mahrez Alvarez Palmer

I'd bring in a winger, even if it meant moving Palmer on or loaning Perrone.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Think we'll be waiting until the summer for this one, if it does indeed happen. Did City really expect Leicester to accept a loan bid?

Doubt it was a loan?

 

[Blue and true]

FWIW Maddison is one of the best free-kick takers around.

James Maddison is close to Ward-Prowse in terms of goalscoring stats.

Maddison = 14 direct goals from last 100 free-kicks taken
Ward-Prowse = 16 direct goals from last 100 free-kicks taken

And James Ward Prowse is a garbage footballer, scoring multiple freekicks doesn't change that. Nor does 14 in 100 change the fact that Maddison is anything other than an average footballer.

So underwhelming.