It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

mancboy said:
Theres plenty we can do, he is under contract and they will have to meet the fee
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Again, no one knows what fee we would ask for.

We don’t know what agreements we make with second choice keepers to get them in.

If every transfer followed your path, no club would sell a player against their wishes. That’s obviously not true.

We will no doubt give Bayern an acceptable fee. If they meet it, Ortega goes, if they don’t, he’ll stay. (Barring going on strike etc.)
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Again, no one knows what fee we would ask for.

We don’t know what agreements we make with second choice keepers to get them in.

If every transfer followed your path, no club would sell a player against their wishes. That’s obviously not true.

We will no doubt give Bayern an acceptable fee. If they meet it, Ortega goes, if they don’t, he’ll stay. (Barring going on strike etc.)
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im not saying we wont give a fee but that fee will have to be acceptable to us, as we have said there is no benefit to us to selling ortega and helping a european rival apart for a significant fee and the price should and will reflect.

20m is of zero benefit to us as it will cost us more than that to replace him as other clubs know that we are in need, just like bayern are now
 
mancboy said:
Its dead simple there is absolutely zero upside to this deal for us and the player is under contract, bayern or not it doesnt matter, the season has started, its going to cost us a fortune to find an adequate replacement and there is nothing in it for us to sell.

The arrogance that bayern and barca have is astounding, they genuinely believe that if they want a player that all other teams should just say here you go have them.
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Wouldn’t blame Ortega at all for going he is not a back up keeper good luck to him
 
WallyA said:
Kind of interesting thinking about the reaction to this window early on when we lost Gundogan and Mahrez, to us potentially bringing in: Kovacic, Gvardiol, Paqueta and Doku. Looking like Phillips is being phased out.

That's a really good 4 players to get in, all really good on the ball. With Kevin out for a while, it should be strong enough to challenge on all fronts.

I suspect, with current personnel available, the side is perfectly set up for every tactical variation Pep wants, he now has:

1) A complete abundance in control midfielders: Rodri, Kovacic, Bernie, Paqueta

2) 6 defenders that can play in a back 4, and in particular, Gvardiol AND Stones means Pep can bring back Double Inverted Fullbacks if he wishes too.

I think the ultimate 11 of these players involves playing Rodri as a CB who can push into midfield (doing the Stones role from last season). This forces the back 5 to consist of the most "competent" ball controllers, so when under a heavy press they are least likely to make mistakes, but also the best passers of the ball as well.

Gvardiol
Dias
Stones

Rodri
Kovacic

Foden
Alvarez
Haaland
Bernie
Doku

Defensive Depth: Walker, Akanji, Ake, Paqueta, Lewis (he might play higher in the future) - 5 players

Attacking Depth: Grealish, Palmer, McAtee, Bobb, (KdB when fit benches a starter) - 5 players

No room for Gomez and Perrone.
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You're sticking Grealish on the bench with youngsters but including Doku (new signing, completely unproven in our squad) and Alvarez (doesn't currently work with Haaland)? And when Grealish was key to our winning the treble! (I'll leave the disrespect to Ake to one side for now.) Just fuck off with that.

Honestly, some people's Grealish hate just makes them look like idiots.
 
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