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Barcon said:
Who's saying that?
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Firstly Komps gone. The popular view is anyone but Maguire. Not my view but there you are.

Secondly an additional view raised is that if the Stones rumour is true and he was to move to Barca, whoever we replaced him with would be an upgrade. Again not my view.

Thirdly it's been largely reported that Otto may be down the road although it has been suggested that he may stay.
That's potentially 2 or 3 out of are current centre backs gone but an expectation that City would be OK.

If the abovementioned was to pan out as written we are screwed.
 
neilmcnab said:
Just received information that John Stones has been to Barcelona in the last 24 hours with his dad. The mate that told me is spot on with info and has tried to put a bet on with the bookies but they wouldn't take it...
So defo something happening
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Sorry mate but bookies will take a bet on anything.
 
Not a chance Stones goes to Barca. Why pay the English premium plus 3 years of contract on a player who can be outstanding but is certainly inconsistent? Why would we sell anyway? That would take us to just two homegrown players in the squad - would only make even the remotest bit of sense if we had Wan Bissaka and Maguire already tied up.
 
Topbins said:
Firstly Komps gone. The popular view is anyone but Maguire. Not my view but there you are.

Secondly an additional view raised is that if the Stones rumour is true and he was to move to Barca, whoever we replaced him with would be an upgrade. Again not my view.

Thirdly it's been largely reported that Otto may be down the road although it has been suggested that he may stay.
That's potentially 2 or 3 out of are current centre backs gone but an expectation that City would be OK.

If the abovementioned was to pan out as written we are screwed.
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Why would the club allow your worst case scenario?
 
OB1 said:
:)

I think Maguire is ok; sufficiently so that I'd have no issue with City signing him if that's what Pep wants but as competition for Stones, not as a replacement.
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It’s the proposed fee that drives me nuts. Marquee fee for someone who might just about keep his head above water at city if he’s lucky. On principle you walk away and we’ve backed the club many times on that stance but it works both ways in a time where we must account and spend each penny wisely.

I don’t dislike him, if he was 25m I’d say bring him now.
 
Keeper! said:
Both equal with the ball at their feet but Maguire is a far superior out and out defender.
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Fuck me I’ve heard some bollocks on this forum but that my son is topping the fucking lot.

As much as Stones frustrates me at times, on the ball he is absolutely exceptional as a central defender. The way he moves the ball and picks the most progressive passes as often as possible, to the safe side of the receiving player and moves into the best positions to give other players options even if that looks incredibly risky. He’s the best around at that side of the game, his long range isn’t fantastic but that’s kind of irrelevant when his short game is so good.
 
Topbins said:
Firstly Komps gone. The popular view is anyone but Maguire. Not my view but there you are.

Secondly an additional view raised is that if the Stones rumour is true and he was to move to Barca, whoever we replaced him with would be an upgrade. Again not my view.

Thirdly it's been largely reported that Otto may be down the road although it has been suggested that he may stay.
That's potentially 2 or 3 out of are current centre backs gone but an expectation that City would be OK.

If the abovementioned was to pan out as written we are screwed.
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Do you honestly believe the club would let two more central defenders leave on top of Vinny’s departure without replacements? Seriously?

You’re one negative motherfucker my god, I hope your parents don’t leave any knifes or ropes around the house. Although judging by your negativity you’d be too scared to try it just in case it miraculously failed.
 
ctid1894 said:
Do you honestly believe the club would let two more central defenders leave on top of Vinny’s departure without replacements? Seriously?

You’re one negative motherfucker my god, I hope your parents don’t leave any knifes or ropes around the house. Although judging by your negativity you’d be too scared to try it just in case it miraculously failed.
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There have been no concerns raised by me or by anybody else about City's ability to replace gone or potentially outgoing players, so I don't understand what it is your being so abusive about?
 
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neilmcnab said:
Just received information that John Stones has been to Barcelona in the last 24 hours with his dad. The mate that told me is spot on with info and has tried to put a bet on with the bookies but they wouldn't take it...
So defo something happening
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Can't see it. Would leave Walker, Sterling and Foden as the only HG players in the squad.
 
Topbins said:
Firstly Komps gone. The popular view is anyone but Maguire. Not my view but there you are.

Secondly an additional view raised is that if the Stones rumour is true and he was to move to Barca, whoever we replaced him with would be an upgrade. Again not my view.

Thirdly it's been largely reported that Otto may be down the road although it has been suggested that he may stay.
That's potentially 2 or 3 out of are current centre backs gone but an expectation that City would be OK.

If the abovementioned was to pan out as written we are screwed.
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You have misunderstood my question.
Who has said "if two centre backs come in to replace Stones and Komps, there just going to hit the ground running with a system it took a whole season for are current squad to work out?
 
shak said:
Not a chance Stones goes to Barca. Why pay the English premium plus 3 years of contract on a player who can be outstanding but is certainly inconsistent? Why would we sell anyway? That would take us to just two homegrown players in the squad - would only make even the remotest bit of sense if we had Wan Bissaka and Maguire already tied up.
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Probably unsettled by Pep's move to Juventus.
 
ctid1894 said:
Do you honestly believe the club would let two more central defenders leave on top of Vinny’s departure without replacements? Seriously?

You’re one negative motherfucker my god, I hope your parents don’t leave any knifes or ropes around the house. Although judging by your negativity you’d be too scared to try it just in case it miraculously failed.
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There is an option to not tapping the 'post reply' button. Try it.
 
bondsman said:
Why would the club allow your worst case scenario?
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I wasn't referring to the club.

I was acknowledging that with Komps gone, a replacement needed and a view expressed that Stones may not be a big miss if he went to Barca, it may be misguided for some to think that the club would be able to kick on next season without problems.

Particularly when the centre backs gone or could go spent the best part of a year coming to grips with Peps system.

I can see Pep bringing in one like he did with Laporte but not to acknowledge bringing in more than one Cb may cause problems does not make sense.

That's the stuff of Fifa.
 
Barcon said:
You have misunderstood my question.
Who has said "if two centre backs come in to replace Stones and Komps, there just going to hit the ground running with a system it took a whole season for are current squad to work out?
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Your starting point is incorrect I never stated anything about what anybody had spefically said.

The starting point of my post was my concerns about what others may (expect) based upon earlier posts dismissing the potential loss of Stones as not being a big deal.

My post also I hilighted that to dismiss the potential departure of Stones, doesn't take into account the actual departure of Komps. My post to paraphrase again also sought to highlight that these are two experienced CB's who know the system and the league.

In addition my post also highlighted that it may be unrealistic to expect City to hit the ground running with two or three potential new CB's joining the club who won't be used to are system. This was view expressed not a quote and as far as I understand is allowed.
Capeesh?

City's system ain't plug and play, it ain't two out two in, we go again.

It takes time as the first season under Pep proved.

Mahrez during his first season may also be another a good example of the kind of time it may take for some to adapt under Pep.
Further consider Aguero under Pep, it took the great man time to adapt it may well be the same with others including any new CB's.
 
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