Exactly it's not rocket science. My point is your claim that otamendi is "seen as a complete joke, an awful defender who is always about to have a calamity and a dreadful transfer" is completely naive and false because there are people other than city fans that rate him, to which i posted a poll from twitter over a debate between Alderweireld and Otamendi which completely contradicted your point. You chose to ignore that point because i proved your wrong and tried to be a smart arse about it but hey ho, whatever floats your boat.