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[domalino]

IMO I just don't think his mobile enough for central midfield sitting or experienced enough to play that role I think we stick with what we have and invest next summer in that rôle.

I'm not convinced by moving him to midfield, but Stones is plenty mobile to do a job currently done well by Yaya Toure.

 

[IWasHere]

You don't need to speak to every single person in the world to see a consensus opinion, that's a complete load of shite and you know that.

Real Madrid are not in for him.

Why is this still going on? Are you really incapable of admitting that actually Otamendi doesn't have a good reputation outside of City fans?

But that's how you're coming across though ain't it? Earlier you said "He's seen as a complete joke, an awful defender who is always about to have a calamity and a dreadful transfer. You might not think that's fair, or accurate, but that's what people think". Surely even you must know that that's completely false and naive??



Alderweireld is a highly rated centre back (arguably the best in the league) yet only 30 odd or so rate him higher than Otamendi. But he has a bad reputation right?

 

[uwe rosler 28]

I'm not convinced by moving him to midfield, but Stones is plenty mobile to do a job currently done well by Yaya Toure.

The point I was making is yaya is experienced in that role that's why his mobility is not an issue

 

[domalino]

But that's how you're coming across though ain't it? Earlier you said "He's seen as a complete joke, an awful defender who is always about to have a calamity and a dreadful transfer. You might not think that's fair, or accurate, but that's what people think". Surely even you must know that that's completely false and naive??



Alderweireld is a highly rated centre back (arguably the best in the league) yet only 30 odd or so rate him higher than Otamendi. But he has a bad reputation right?

...Sorry, you're now arguing a random twitter poll proves that the media likes Otamendi?

 

[domalino]

The point I was making is yaya is experienced in that role that's why his mobility is not an issue

If he's not got the positioning then playing him there isn't an option at all.

 

[IWasHere]

...Sorry, you're now arguing a random twitter poll proves that the media likes Otamendi?

Aye? So reputation is based only on media and not the public? Gotcha

 

[domalino]

Aye? So reputation is based only on media and not the public? Gotcha

Reputation in the media is based on the media, yeah.

This isn't rocket science.

As for public perception, I could just as easily link you to the tweet where Otamendi was announced as being in Whscoreds stats based team of the year and the torrent of people laughing at it - would that prove public opinion was against him?

 

[kaz7]

Still on about nico,he has a thread for fuck sake

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I'm not convinced by moving him to midfield, but Stones is plenty mobile to do a job currently done well by Yaya Toure.

That might seem like a solution but if you step back, replacing Yaya with Stones is madness. Yaya has outstanding technical skill and passing ability + years of expeiance in bossing a midfield. Stones is a CB who look good on the ball.

 

[domalino]

That might seem like a solution but if you step back, replacing Yaya with Stones is madness. Yaya has outstanding technical skill and passing ability + years of expeiance in bossing a midfield. Stones is a CB who look good on the ball.

I literally said I don't think he should play there, you're preaching to the choir.

 

[Akiva]

We have to be so pleased with how things are turning out. I don't think we will miss any of our intended targets. Any.

I do and he certainly wants to, there is too much time invested in this not to make it a reality.

Wenger is the only hurdle I see.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I literally said I don't think he should play there, you're preaching to the choir.

Good. Stones should focus on being a CB. With Vinny fit he is probably 3rd choice. If we sign another he could end up 4th. Needs to step up next year when given a chance.

 

[IWasHere]

Reputation in the media is based on the media, yeah.

This isn't rocket science.

As for public perception, I could just as easily link you to the tweet where Otamendi was announced as being in Whscoreds stats based team of the year and the torrent of people laughing at it - would that prove public opinion was against him?

Exactly it's not rocket science. My point is your claim that otamendi is "seen as a complete joke, an awful defender who is always about to have a calamity and a dreadful transfer" is completely naive and false because there are people other than city fans that rate him, to which i posted a poll from twitter over a debate between Alderweireld and Otamendi which completely contradicted your point. You chose to ignore that point because i proved your wrong and tried to be a smart arse about it but hey ho, whatever floats your boat.

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Good. Stones should focus on being a CB. With Vinny fit he is probably 3rd choice. If we sign another he could end up 4th. Needs to step up next year when given a chance.

He'll be the starting CB next year, dreaming if you think he is 3/4 choice

 

[LittleEgg]

So Douglas Costa is the alternative to Sanchez? Sanchez is a world class forward with a high work rate who could play anywhere in the attack. And would probably start most of the time over Aguero, Jesus, Sane or Sterling. Since he is either better or at least on the same level with all of them.

Signing Costa would be like signing an older back-up to Sane and Sterling. Who is just as tricky as those 2. But not as productive or good. At least in terms of goals and assists.

So it's either a back-up winger for the best front 3 in the league (IMO). Or we sign one of the best forwards in the world and have a front 3 ready to rival Barca's front 3.

Do you not think costa is like a more developed sane/sterling?

I think maybe we are underselling him a little here. A top player.

 

[domalino]

Exactly it's not rocket science. My point is your claim that otamendi is "seen as a complete joke, an awful defender who is always about to have a calamity and a dreadful transfer" is completely naive and false because there are people other than city fans that rate him, to which i posted a poll from twitter over a debate between Alderweireld and Otamendi which completely contradicted your point. You chose to ignore that point because i proved your wrong and tried to be a smart arse about it but hey ho, whatever floats your boat.

If you want to believe the consensus outside City fans is that Otamendi is a brilliant CB and has been a good signing, fine, believe it.

 

[domalino]

Do you not think costa is like a more developed sane/sterling?

I think maybe we are underselling him a little here. A top player.

I think we'd all be disappointed if Sterling and Sané end up with Costa's end product at 26/27 years old. He was very good in his first season under Pep without really contributing any great numbers of goals or assists, but this year he seems to have regressed to the mean.

 

[Paladin]

Still on about nico,he has a thread for fuck sake

^^^^
This. Can't you take your boring dispute about Otamendi to the school gates at 4 o'clock?

 

[NQCitizen]

Surprised when we use "can't play with Stones" as a measure of a player's ability.

While his potential is clear I've yet to see Stones play effectively with any of our players.

 

[BlueCityfan]

Business done by first week of pre-season? Hard to see it. Since pre-season starts in about 3 and a half weeks. You'd think Sanchez would drag on longer than that. Especially with the confederations cup. And possibly Walker as well. Given who we are negotiating with.

Mendy (if he comes).....you'd expect to be done shortly after the internationals. And if the reports are correct....we haven't even decided yet if we are going to sign another CB etc.