It's Quiet the £250m return

SWPISHOME said:
Although Archie Gray is young and a player with alot of potential, It's not the type of player that we need right now.

We've seen it with Tottenham last season he's a player that can get bullied and caught out of position an awful lot, He can play in numerous positions but hasn't mastered any of yet.

We need defenders in the door with pace, physicality and leadership. We have enough defenders that get bullied about as it is, We don't need anymore.
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Sounds like Rico Lewis
 
Cityfan said:
It's an interesting version of Occams razor that you have.

Last season none of our central defenders didn't get injured, most for a long time. Our captain and Right backs form fell of a cliff and left the club so we had to play a make shift right back. Our left back was made into a central defender to cover for the injuries and a midfielder played at left back. We lost a world class covering defensive central midfielder for virtually the entire season.


And you choose to blame our defensive woes on tactical stupidity by one of the world’s widely acknowledged leading tactical managers.
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I am confused are you blaming injuries or saying our players have gone to shit ? Is it not possible tactics could have been different to manage the injuries ?
 
Gumzy97 said:
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Would be like when Pep brought Kimmich to Bayern, nowhere near the finished product but incredibly versatile for such a young age with bags of potential, not sure he's what we need today though. I don't think he could immediately come in and be the player we need today.
 
Lkzerinho said:
Would be like when Pep brought Kimmich to Bayern, nowhere near the finished product but incredibly versatile for such a young age with bags of potential, not sure he's what we need today though. I don't think he could immediately come in and be the player we need today.
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It would seem that the RB situation is a definite homegrown player then? Nice player Gray but I would prefer us to just sign a specialist in that area for RB. Added to the fact Khaldoon hates Levy and Levy hates us then this is a no go anyway.
 
citytill1die84 said:
Lol why would anybody want to leave Spurs for City........

Trophies, more money? Loads of reasons.
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In general yes, but he’s a young player who wants to play games. Thats part of the reason he joined spurs. Why would he come to city to sit on the bench?

As we’ve seen with so many of our young players they want to play football. Money and trophies don’t always mean as much if your not a part of it

We could have saved ourselves millions and just signed him when he was at leeds
 
Don't think Premier League clubs doing deals with each other is the same as it was ten years ago. Everyone is now effectively a competing rival. Only way I see a new right back rocking up is from outside the league.
 
WRicko said:
I am confused are you blaming injuries or saying our players have gone to shit ? Is it not possible tactics could have been different to manage the injuries ?
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I am saying the prime reason why we were defensively less solid was injuries (and Walkers loss of form/disappearance)
It's hardly surprising if your best defensive players including defensive midfielder are injured for much of the season that you are defensively less good whatever the tactics.

Our tactics did change to manage the injuries , of course they could be different still. What I'm sugggesting is that it is unlikely that with one of the most tactically astute brains in world football they are likely to have been better..

I'm not suggesting Guardiola is faultless, to the extent that he was at least in part responsible for the lack of cover for Rodri/ Walker he must take some of the responsibility but I very much doubt it was down to tactical stupidity naivety over the course of a season.
 
DenisLawBackHeel74 said:
We should sign him to a longer contract, then sell or loan him to Girona…or another City Group club.
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He'd be mad to sign a new contract. In his shoes, I'd see what offers there were this summer, otherwise I'd be waiting as can sign for anyone for free next summer which means I'd get the fee not City.

I'm not convinced by McAttee and won't be bothered if we sell him but we've let him get down to a year remaining without either integrating him so he's worth a new contract or deciding we didn't want him.
 
Cityfan said:
I am saying the prime reason why we were defensively less solid was injuries (and Walkers loss of form/disappearance)
It's hardly surprising if your best defensive players including defensive midfielder are injured for much of the season that you are defensively less good whatever the tactics.

Our tactics did change to manage the injuries , of course they could be different still. What I'm sugggesting is that it is unlikely that with one of the most tactically astute brains in world football they are likely to have been better..

I'm not suggesting Guardiola is faultless, to the extent that he was at least in part responsible for the lack of cover for Rodri/ Walker he must take some of the responsibility but I very much doubt it was down to tactical stupidity naivety over the course of a season.
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Ok thanks for clarifying the debate seems to be either tactical or our players are rubbish. Some people seem to treat injuries as if they make players rubbish rather than something separate
 
SWPISHOME said:
Although Archie Gray is young and a player with alot of potential, It's not the type of player that we need right now.

We've seen it with Tottenham last season he's a player that can get bullied and caught out of position an awful lot, He can play in numerous positions but hasn't mastered any of yet.

We need defenders in the door with pace, physicality and leadership. We have enough defenders that get bullied about as it is, We don't need anymore.
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I would argue that he meets all the criteria, with the exception of pace—he may not be Walker, but he’s still relatively quick. Under Pep, Archie would likely develop into a sensational player. The main concern, however, is that Pep appears to have a firm stance on what his trajectory would be were he to join us.
 
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