It's Quiet the £250m return

So, could be looking at none of the January signings featuring, and most being loaned out. Only Marmoush might see some game time. Given the transfer fees paid, a very poor window, if players are not going to play given the fees paid.
 
Spot on. Its crazy to me that people would rather believe that every single defender on the books turned to utter garbage just months after winning a 4th title in a row than recognise the tactics are the problem. If 1 player is playing shit, it's a drop in form or they arent good enough, if everybody you have for that area is playing shit, Its time to look beyond the players for thr reason.
It's an interesting version of Occams razor that you have.

Last season none of our central defenders didn't get injured, most for a long time. Our captain and Right backs form fell of a cliff and left the club so we had to play a make shift right back. Our left back was made into a central defender to cover for the injuries and a midfielder played at left back. We lost a world class covering defensive central midfielder for virtually the entire season.


And you choose to blame our defensive woes on tactical stupidity by one of the worlds widely acknowledged leading tactical managers.
 
Reis is the likely one to move to Girona along with Echiverri. Khusanov has an outside chance of making it in Pep's final season at CIty. KDB is trying to persuade Napoli that Grealish could really add something in their set up (ignore his off field issues he can actualy succeed in the Serie A).

If they leave on loan.. they're not coming back.

It's just the Perrone route.. and I really rate Perrone. You have to move the dinosaurs and give the young talent time to gel in the team.
 
If they leave on loan.. they're not coming back.

It's just the Perrone route.. and I really rate Perrone. You have to move the dinosaurs and give the young talent time to gel in the team.
I think they will because unlike Perrone, there are probably more spaces in the squad opening up next summer. I think Gundogan and Kovacic leave this summer and maybe one more. Next summer though think Bernardo, Ake and if they don’t leave this summer Stones and Akanji all leave next summer. Leaves spaces for Reis and Echeverri and maybe Bah and Nypan or at least some of them to come back into the squad. I actually think Reis , Nypan and Echeverri are all better than Perrone, Bah I know nothing about
 
So, could be looking at none of the January signings featuring, and most being loaned out. Only Marmoush might see some game time. Given the transfer fees paid, a very poor window, if players are not going to play given the fees paid.
Think Reis is the only one that would be loaned and think he was always a longer term option, same as Echeverri. Marmoush ,Gonzalez and Khusonov I expect to be part of the squad and play.
 
Although Archie Gray is young and a player with alot of potential, It's not the type of player that we need right now.

We've seen it with Tottenham last season he's a player that can get bullied and caught out of position an awful lot, He can play in numerous positions but hasn't mastered any of yet.

We need defenders in the door with pace, physicality and leadership. We have enough defenders that get bullied about as it is, We don't need anymore.
 
Let’s have it right though.

Gonzalez filled a gap but that aside, has been bang average. If we could get 50m and reinvest it there are many much more dynamic midfielders out there.

I wouldn’t bat an eyelid if we moved him on.
Jesus, give him a chance. He's only played about 6 matches.

Liverpool fans were saying the same about Gravenberch.

Our fans said the same about Rodri.
 
It's an interesting version of Occams razor that you have.

Last season none of our central defenders didn't get injured, most for a long time. Our captain and Right backs form fell of a cliff and left the club so we had to play a make shift right back. Our left back was made into a central defender to cover for the injuries and a midfielder played at left back. We lost a world class covering defensive central midfielder for virtually the entire season.


And you choose to blame our defensive woes on tactical stupidity by one of the worlds widely acknowledged leading tactical managers.

There are some on this site who have completely lost their heads.

If you want to see the worst, visit Pep's thread on the player performance board.

The same people who flap on every post match thread have made their way there...
 
There are some on this site who have completely lost their heads.

If you want to see the worst, visit Pep's thread on the player performance board.

The same people who flap on every post match thread have made their way there...
It is spoiling the forum, IMO.
So many threads are absolutely polluted by negativity and we are in the close-season, having just bought a group of highly talented young players. It is difficult for me to grasp...really difficult.
 
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Let’s have it right though.

Gonzalez filled a gap but that aside, has been bang average. If we could get 50m and reinvest it there are many much more dynamic midfielders out there.

I wouldn’t bat an eyelid if we moved him on.
Bang average is an overstatement. How many can go head to head with Newcastle’s midfield and win? If we reinvest in someone else how can we be so sure they’d be happy to sit on the bench?
 

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