Says it all. Also there are plenty RB who are better than our current ones. We just didn’t go for them for whatever reasons
i honestly didn’t read „ moved“ but I personally think there are several RB out there who we could’ve tried for but yet again didn’t. The fact that we always need so long to get new fullbacks is quite bad. Finally got a LWB and now we need a RB. There‘s no way there is no RB available who would make us stronger at the RB position. If we really think so it just screams arrogance.It just says our recently extended member of the leadership group would likely get picked over Huijsen, which seems fairly evidently true.
Which RB that moved this summer that isn't frimpong or TAA would you start over Rico or Nunes?
Think this is a really valid point. The market just didn’t have any options at right back. We could have forced it and “overpaid” but you can’t overpay once. You need to hold firm. City do that well (ish). Or they could have downgraded but this isn’t an option either as this is the United model of buying the “right now” player not the right player. It’s frustrating but I’m fully expecting that livramento signs if Newcastle aren’t in the CL or we sign someone of that profile. It’s frustrating and probably ensures that we don’t compete in the league or CL but bigger picture it’s probably the right call. On the proviso right back is nailed with a top top quality option next year. If not then viana will rightly be criticised.It just says our recently extended member of the leadership group would likely get picked over Huijsen, which seems fairly evidently true.
Which RB that moved this summer that isn't frimpong or TAA would you start over Rico or Nunes?
Agree about the right back transfer wise, but if we don't win the league this year, and we might,might not but it won't be the right back that stops us, we won it without left backs before, and honestly don't think Frimpong is any better than Nunes at right back.Think this is a really valid point. The market just didn’t have any options at right back. We could have forced it and “overpaid” but you can’t overpay once. You need to hold firm. City do that well (ish). Or they could have downgraded but this isn’t an option either as this is the United model of buying the “right now” player not the right player. It’s frustrating but I’m fully expecting that livramento signs if Newcastle aren’t in the CL or we sign someone of that profile. It’s frustrating and probably ensures that we don’t compete in the league or CL but bigger picture it’s probably the right call. On the proviso right back is nailed with a top top quality option next year. If not then viana will rightly be criticised.
Frimpong is poor defensively, but we got away without a left back because we were much better at controlling the game.Agree about the right back transfer wise, but if we don't win the league this year, and we might,might not but it won't be the right back that stops us, we won it without left backs before, and honestly don't think Frimpong is any better than Nunes at right back.
At the moment yes, but hopefully as the new players and coaches bed in get to know each other that control will return, if it doesn;t that's why we won't win the league this year not because of who we have at right back.Frimpong is poor defensively, but we got away without a left back because we were much better at controlling the game.
This team is poor in possession (in comparison) and laboured.
I honestly suggest you watch & listen carefully to Rico's interview on the OS.Only thing that settles debate on him is much improved performances from him not matter what the role/unique position he is playing....fact is no matter how much you want to dress it up (this unique role) - he isnt very good at ANY part of it...offensively, defensively, linking play between the lines.
His one attribute (getting in between the lines and finding space and picking the ball up in these spaces) is all good but when he moves with the ball little usually comes from it. ....often slowing down the play or passing sideward. Defensively (whether that is in midfield or whe in the fullback position - he is a liability - he was last season and has started much better this season).
This unique role you describe - he isnt fit for it...is that on Pep...yes....but Pep needs to drop him and the idea/unique role and play a fullback that can actually defend for a start.
Despite criticism, no one isnt behind him...people comment on his and others performances. ......good and bad
i honestly didn’t read „ moved“ but I personally think there are several RB out there who we could’ve tried for but yet again didn’t. The fact that we always need so long to get new fullbacks is quite bad. Finally got a LWB and now we need a RB. There‘s no way there is no RB available who would make us stronger at the RB position. If we really think so it just screams arrogance.
I also agree on the first part. That’s why I said „ says it all“. They not better but will get picked regardless
Yes with hindsight if we are set on Livo and no one else then we have to wait until we can get the lad. Pointless getting anyone else in for sake of it . . . we must think we will eventually get himTo me it just looks like we're happy to wait for Livramento as the only identified potentially available and definitely upgrading option. Which on balance I think is the right move. Rico and Nunes really aren't as far off average right backs as Bluemoon thinks, trouble is we need a way, way above average right back (which in some way it's not impossible either grows into).
Not for me, a lot of our players are nowhere near the standard we had.The players don't worry me, it's the system they're being asked to play that does.
Go on then. Also, when you say "make the grade", can you detail exactly what that means in your opinion?Not for me, a lot of our players are nowhere near the standard we had.
Cost about as much to buy too.
I don’t want to do it but I cojld list half a dozen that won't make the grade.
Go on then. Also, when you say "make the grade", can you detail exactly what that means in your opinion?
That’s not actually a fair response. Simon has said why he doesn’t rate him you have not said why you do rate him. I’m happy to join those that don’t rate him and a new 5 year deal based on his displays tells you where we’re heading. He’s average at best and we are fast becoming an average team with average players. The number of world class players in the squad you could argue is down to about 5 which is simply not good enough for where the fans and club believe we are in world standings of footballI honestly suggest you watch & listen carefully to Rico's interview on the OS.
There are many things which are becoming pretty obvious to most that you're evidently bereft of.
We get it. You don't like or rate Lewis. It's a wonder why you're not advising Guardiola. By your reasoning, all Pep has to do is drop Rico Lewis, & we'll immediately return to our treble winning form.
Problem solved. I can't wait for the next match that Rico doesn't start so we can return to our swashbuckling winning ways... I can't believe this simple solution was staring everyone in the face all the time & we all missed it. \0/
As I said to the other fella, I honestly suggest you watch & listen carefully to Rico's interview on the OS. It saves me having to type out what seems pretty obvious to those who do rate him, & more importantly to Manchester City Football Club, who've just upped his wages & secured his services for another 5 years.That’s not actually a fair response. Simon has said why he doesn’t rate him you have not said why you do rate him. I’m happy to join those that don’t rate him and a new 5 year deal based on his displays tells you where we’re heading. He’s average at best and we are fast becoming an average team with average players. The number of world class players in the squad you could argue is down to about 5 which is simply not good enough for where the fans and club believe we are in world standings of football
how can youn possibly know we are becoming an average team, we have a spine of world class players, and lots of young talent that nobody knows yet how good they'll be in a season or two.A great manager and top level coaches.That’s not actually a fair response. Simon has said why he doesn’t rate him you have not said why you do rate him. I’m happy to join those that don’t rate him and a new 5 year deal based on his displays tells you where we’re heading. He’s average at best and we are fast becoming an average team with average players. The number of world class players in the squad you could argue is down to about 5 which is simply not good enough for where the fans and club believe we are in world standings of football
I’ve seen enough of Doku and Sav to know they will never be Sane Mahrez level. Doku has gone backwards and Sav appears to want out.how can youn possibly know we are becoming an average team, we have a spine of world class players, and lots of young talent that nobody knows yet how good they'll be in a season or two.A great manager and top level coaches.
Doku possibly, Savinho you haven't seen nearly enough and that's just 2 players.I’ve seen enough of Doku and Sav to know they will never be Sane Mahrez level. Doku has gone backwards and Sav appears to want out.
They are better than mahrez was at the same ageI’ve seen enough of Doku and Sav to know they will never be Sane Mahrez level. Doku has gone backwards and Sav appears to want out.
Go on then. Also, when you say "make the grade", can you detail exactly what that means in your opinion?
In the cases of Gundo, Silva, Mahrez etc, they never started off as being indispensable, they worked toward that status, plus they were older when they arrived at City than Doku, Savinho & Lewis, so I don't see that you're comparing apples with apples.I don’t know what the other poster’s definition of ‘the grade’ is, but from my perspective it’s contributing regularly and being important to a successful, trophy winning side, like KDB, Fern, Walker, Vinnie, Gundo, Silva, Mahrez, etc have.
So for me I’m not sure whether Doku, Savinho, Nunes or Lewis will ever be at the level where they are indispensable and key to a trophy winning side.