It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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domalino said:
I really think Bartomeu wants Messi to take the to court so he can try and portray him as the bad guy.
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I'm pretty sure it's just an opening negotiating position. Don't watch what they say, watch what they do. I see two underlying themes

'It's the economy, stupid' - Their financial position is supposedly poor due to their wage bill. Bartomeu would be liable for losses come March. He knows due to the state of play he won't be re-elected in March. A rational position would be to extract the maximum transfer fee he can and get the highest wage earner off the books. I wouldn't expect to see a player swap because that does nothing for the cash situation. Likewise I struggle to see the sense in keeping a very unhappy and demotivated player, unless there are commercial considerations.

'Actions speak louder than words' - if they wanted to build the future around Messi then I don't think we'd see them dumping his best mate over a phone call, telling him 'your privileges are over' and refusing to meet with him. This isn't how you reconcile and persuade, quite the opposite.
 
Adebayor said:
Because every time they try to enforce it, it fails to stand up in court rendering it pointless. Plus, they’ve already said so many times that it’s relaxed this summer due to Covid
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Again, that’s not true. For starters we’ve already had a squad reduction for CL games & a £49mill fine, way back in 2014
Didn’t AC Milan clubs get a years expulsion from European competition in 2019?

& Google is your friend:
FC Ordabasy (KAZ): The club is excluded from participating in the next UEFA club competition for which it would otherwise qualify in the next two (2) seasons (i.e. the 2020/21 and 2021/22 seasons) unless the club is able to prove by 31 January 2020 that it has paid the amounts that were identified as overdue payables as at 30 September 2019. The club has also been fined €100,000.

NK Olimpija Ljubljana (SVN): The club has been fined €75,000 for making payments of its overdue payables amounts after the deadlines provided for in the regulations.

FK Crvena zvezda (SRB): The club has been fined €50,000 for making payments of its overdue payables amounts after the deadlines provided for in the regulations.

So you are 100% wrong that it's unenforceable
 
fulabeer said:
Messi is still a great player. Age will catch up though.
However, his bar starts so much higher, that any decline still classes him as an elite player.

My take on this deal is it's much more than the player though.

We haven't really made a statement purchase in a long while. Many on here have complained why we haven't broken records to bring in £100+ players.
The truth is we haven't needed too. The champions league exits haven't really been down to the team.

The one thing we have always said that if the right player ever come along, we would go all out to get them.
Messi is that player.
He would fix so many things.

He would elevate the club to a new status. You cannot underestimate the ongoing effects long after he leaves.
Papers are already changing their perspectives in their headlines. Last week it was "rich" "wealthy", suddenly we are "giants".
Sponsors follow the clicks. Attracting new fans will have long lasting global effects.

I know it's not the City way, but sometimes you really do need a poster boy to change perceptions. (oh and he can play a bit as well!)
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Well we wouldn't breaking records bringing in £100+ players would we? Maybe we can offer United £105 and a chip barm for Harry Maguire though? ;)
 
Dobsy said:
I've heard the idea that it's because he's so bad a lot of people find it comedic. So he's survived because he's a character rather than a good pundit. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.
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Maybe Sly are scared to sack him, with his mental health and all.
 
Dobsy said:
I've heard the idea that it's because he's so bad a lot of people find it comedic. So he's survived because he's a character rather than a good pundit. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.
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I also think it is to do with the fact he also struggles badly with personal demons (he is currently sober so fair fucking play to him)
 
This is playing out exactly how I’d imagine it — people are really starting to turn on Bartomeu

Look at any tweet that mentions Messi leaving - even their own fans are falling over themselves to let him go now

At least this way Bartomeu can say he’s tried everything to keep him

Peacocking to the extreme
 
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