It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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In layman’s terms, does this mean FIFA grant a provisional transfer pass and then a fee is decided in court?

Sorry, I don’t fully understand what these papers are. Or maybe I do. Who knows.

I thinks its complicated, but as people has pointed , there's an legitimate claim from Messi's team and FIFA would be obliged to grant some extraordinary circumstances pass for this transfer.
 
I'm only getting the drip of very broad strokes from someone connected that I have known for a long time. As far as Messi is concerned, he doesn't want City giving Barca a damn penny.

It takes it out of his own!

You're a fucken legend when and if this goes down. Messi my hero? Nah fuck it. Tolmie is
 
May be of interest.





The law could be on Messi's side
Barcelona Argentine might get his way






EL MUNDO
Messi believes his release clause is no longer valid
LaLiga warn Messi that he must pay his release clause to leave Barcelona
The ongoing dispute between Josep Maria Bartomeu and Leo Messi rolls on and, although Barcelona maintain that the player would have to pay his release clause to leave the club, the law could be in the Argentine's favour.
The burofax sent by Messi to Barcelona claims that his contractual agreement with the club allows him to leave at zero cost, which is being denied by the Catalan club as well as LaLiga.
However, Juan Ramon Liebana, a professor of law at University of La Rioja (UNIR) and member of the Arbitration Court of La Rioja, believes Messi will win the case.
Barcelona allege that there was a June 10 deadline for Messi to exercise that right of termination but, as the Argentine did not do so, the club considers the player to have renewed until June 30, 2021, while the player's lawyers rely on the fact that COVID-19 delayed all competitions, leaving the termination period open.
"That was for a transfer and not for rescinding the contract," Liebana told EFE, regarding the June 10 deadline.
According to Liebana, if the contract specifically states that date, Barcelona would be in the right but, if not, "it would enter the realm of interpretation, where Leo Messi will win for various reasons," he insists.
"Leo Messi's lawyers recall that the last competition that the Blaugrana played in, the Champions League, ended on August 23, so they assure that they are within time to have exercised the unilateral termination period of the contract," he explains.
Liebana believes that the clause in Messi's contract does not explicitly state a particular date of expiration but rather "within a period of X days" which would play in the Argentine's favour.
Furthermore, Liebana indicated that, in such a situation, Article 1281 of the Spanish Civil Code should be applied, which establishes that "if the words of the contract appear to be contrary to the evident intention of the relevant parties, the intention of the one under contract prevails."
"If the account offered by Leo Messi's lawyers, in which they maintain that the intention of both parties was to give a certain margin from the end of the Champions League to decide [his future] is true, the Argentine is right on this matter," he stated.
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This seems so blindingly obvious that you'd think Messi's camp knows whether they're in the right or not here? It's quite cut and dry. Date - Barca win. No date - Messi wins. Surely any lawyer advising him would know this too, so why would he have gone so strong if he wasn't certain?
 
This seems so blindingly obvious that you'd think Messi's camp knows whether they're in the right or not here? It's quite cut and dry. Date - Barca win. No date - Messi wins. Surely any lawyer advising him would know this too, so why would he have gone so strong if he wasn't certain?
My assumption would be that if he sets his stall out at the 700mil release clause when FIFA look at the price for a ruling that he hopes this keeps the price higher
 
Personally I'd like to see him leave on a free and for them to get nothing, a real 'up yours' to Bartomeu. I've said a few times, whatever the technicalities they're clearly betraying the spirit of the clause by playing these games with him.

But a negotiated compromise would put it to bed and stop endless stories questioning the legitimacy of the transfer, so there's that.
And an even upper Up Yours to that Twat tebas
 
Tebas has remained surprisingly quiet so far. However, I don't think we will have to wait too long before he spews his bile.

The guy is seriously unhinged and the thought of losing Messi will be tearing him apart.
 
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