It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

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Damocles said:
It is worth pointing out that in the most successful season in the entire history of this football club where we reached a CL final, won the league by 12 points and were 2 games away from a quadruple, Aguero played 7 times.
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An interesting point.

Indeed, I thought before this xfer window - that Pep might well not want a top striker - preferring instead to play with a novel, midfield-goal-scoring lineup.

My sense at this point though - is that Pep innovated and discovered a winning way. Based though, on our pursuit of Kane (or some other top replacement for Aguero) - it would seem that Pep thinks that the way we coped last season isn't ideal.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Zin isn't talented enough to ever, ever become a first choice starter at any position - obviously. And he'll obviously never get there.

Rodri is potentially world class - at a metronome role. He's not a destroyer. Asking him to play sole defense in a game calling for a destroyer just hurts us and hurts his reputation.

>> Bring in competition for them
Well, this statement is sort of on course. Bring in youthful prospects that excel at these roles. LB. DM. That's what I've been clamoring for.

>> Grealish is exactly what we need and it’ll show
Grealish seems to be class - and I'd love for him to be in our side.

But, I've stated this central point over and over and over - we have much, much bigger needs at LB and DM - IMO. Up-spend on quality in these positions - forgo Grealish if necessary.
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You will reply with a repetitive response following this post - you can't help yourself. In fact, I'm repeating myself here - and in the last few posts.

So, go ahead, post away - get the last word in - should we fail to sign quality players at LB and DM, and should we stumble because of this - well, I'm going to bring this post up.

Should we sign Grealish though and sail on spectacularly - feel free to do the same - hunt this post down and rub it in my face.
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I stand firm:
Our biggest need - striker, given that Aguero is leaving
Next - quality at LB and DM.
3rd - some sort of very promising prospect at CB.
Luxury - Grealish.
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I wish I could unread this.
 
mccity said:
As far I'm concerned LB is not an issue until Pep goes.

Obviously we should be prepared for that, but that's more of a next summer kind of matter to resolve.
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Unless Zin continues to improve or Mendy ...... hopefully
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
I stand firm:
Our biggest need - striker, given that Aguero is leaving
Next - quality at LB and DM.
3rd - some sort of very promising prospect at CB.
Luxury - Grealish.
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Kane
We have Zinchenko, who is a top level LB now (In a Pep team)
DM, whilst we have invested a small fortune in Lavia and Rosa, this isn't a priority.
Taylor Harwood-Belis and Mbete are the very promising prospects at CB.
Grealish. Luxury, yes. Quality, yes.
 
kaz7 said:
zinchy has nailed it , he has proved it over and over again, he is now a competent left back
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He's played OK in some games - in others where our left side is targeted - well, he's at least far better than Mendy.

In some games, when not under pressure Zin shines; wow! - that cross! Amazing. That pass into the box - fantastic!

Well, guess what?

Probably you could make that same cross/pass if not under pressure.

Zin is an OK backup player. If you think he's risen to the level of preferred starter - at say left back - for a side challenging for the PL and CL title - with respect, you are far, far overvaluing Zin's ability.
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The above said - I'd like for us to retain Zin as a backup/utility player. He's got talent - not awesome talent - but OK talent. But what sells me on Zin, is that he never seems to complain and gives his all when on the pitch. He's a team player - and team chemistry is extremely important.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Zin isn't talented enough to ever, ever become a first choice starter at any position - obviously. And he'll obviously never get there.

Rodri is potentially world class - at a metronome role. He's not a destroyer. Asking him to play sole defense in a game calling for a destroyer just hurts us and hurts his reputation.

>> Bring in competition for them
Well, this statement is sort of on course. Bring in youthful prospects that excel at these roles. LB. DM. That's what I've been clamoring for.

>> Grealish is exactly what we need and it’ll show
Grealish seems to be class - and I'd love for him to be in our side.

But, I've stated this central point over and over and over - we have much, much bigger needs at LB and DM - IMO. Up-spend on quality in these positions - forgo Grealish if necessary.
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You will reply with a repetitive response following this post - you can't help yourself. In fact, I'm repeating myself here - and in the last few posts.

So, go ahead, post away - get the last word in - should we fail to sign quality players at LB and DM, and should we stumble because of this - well, I'm going to bring this post up.

Should we sign Grealish though and sail on spectacularly - feel free to do the same - hunt this post down and rub it in my face.
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I stand firm:
Our biggest need - striker, given that Aguero is leaving
Next - quality at LB and DM.
3rd - some sort of very promising prospect at CB.
Luxury - Grealish.
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I can't agree with you on Zinchenko. He's an excellent footballer who has excelled in an unfamiliar role. He's young, talented, and determined. Exactly the type of player we want to keep.

I agree that Jack Grealish is a luxury, but so what? If we were short of cash I might be mildly concerned, but we're not.

Your post makes it sound as though we're desperate and the window closes at 11pm tonight.
We could have a new LB or DM lined up to be signed tomorrow for all we know. We may even have another striker on the way!

Sit back, appreciate that we're PL Champions on the verge of signing our top targets at record fees, and enjoy the ride.

As the more relaxed among us say, fuck it, it's not our money!
 
decmancity said:
Kane
We have Zinchenko, who is a top level LB now (In a Pep team)
DM, whilst we have invested a small fortune in Lavia and Rosa, this isn't a priority.
Taylor Harwood-Belis and Mbete are the very promising prospects at CB.
Grealish. Luxury, yes. Quality, yes.
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>> We have Zinchenko, who is a top level LB now
Huh? Under pressure against a top side, he's a massive weak link. Gives the ball away carelessly - and one-on-one defensively against a RW, I do not trust him at all. With alarming frequency, crosses come in.

>> DM, whilst we have invested a small fortune in Lavia and Rosa, this isn't a priority.
Again, huh? If we played a quality DM we would have won the CL.

>> Taylor Harwood-Belis and Mbete are the very promising prospects at CB
As we don't seem to be pursing a LB - let's hope that one or both of them excel at top level.

>> Grealish. Luxury, yes. Quality, yes.
Agree 100%. But we've gaps to fill.
 
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