It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

[Shaffer92]

True. I guess the only other variable is how bad the deals we have been shown are.

Laporte or Bernardo for £40m.

Who goes?

neither hopefully for that.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

neither hopefully for that.

Ideally, yes. It’s a dead market. If Kane comes in, who moves on?

 

[Shaffer92]

Ideally, yes. It’s a dead market. If Kane comes in, who moves on?

Would someone have to?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Would someone have to?

We’d have 1 too many players in our PL & CL squads, so yeah, one would have to go.

 

[mccity]

Ideally, yes. It’s a dead market. If Kane comes in, who moves on?

Almost certainly Bernardo. I think Laporte and Jesus are in the 'Get us a really good deal so we can profit' camp.

Would someone have to?

Yeah. Aguero going leaves 1 space, which was filled by Grealish. Kane arriving means we're 1 over.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Almost certainly Bernardo. I think Laporte and Jesus are in the 'Get us a really good deal so we can profit' camp.

Bookwise, £40m for Jesus would show as a profit, basically even on Bernardo and a loss on Laporte.

It’s an interesting dilemma for the club to decipher.

Couple that with the news regarding KDB and Foden and it makes their decision even harder.

Jesus and Bernardo swapped for Felix is the best I can come up with to square the circles.

 

[Shaffer92]

Bookwise, £40m for Jesus would show as a profit, basically even on Bernardo and a loss on Laporte.

It’s an interesting dilemma for the club to decipher.

Couple that with the news regarding KDB and Foden and it makes their decision even harder.

Jesus and Bernardo swapped for Felix is the best I can come up with to square the circles.

Felix really doesn't strike me as someone who would embrace living in England. I could be wrong obviously but for Jesus and Bernardo it would seem a big risk.

 

[mccity]

Bookwise, £40m for Jesus would show as a profit, basically even on Bernardo and a loss on Laporte.

It’s an interesting dilemma for the club to decipher.

Couple that with the news regarding KDB and Foden and it makes their decision even harder.

Jesus and Bernardo swapped for Felix is the best I can come up with to square the circles.

It's a nice idea, but no way Atleti go for that. Not only would they not want to lose Felix at any cost but the two players would cause a hike in their wages.

Maybe the club are thinking about something like that elsewhere, it's not a bad train of thought and I'm not ITK so I can't rule it out.

But I doubt the club is going to do anything here, except MAYBE for just Bernardo, and that's a push. They'll want them to bring their own offers in.

Laporte would probably command the greatest fee. A poster who Ric verified suggested they'd heard that Laporte and Bernardo might need to be sold to help fund Kane, but that's the only the source of that info as of now.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Felix really doesn't strike me as someone who would embrace living in England. I could be wrong obviously but for Jesus and Bernardo it would seem a big risk.

I’m not totally sold on the idea, just can’t think how we can move on those two without significantly weakening our squad and not having the money to play with to replace them.

We‘ve no idea how Felix would adapt to the U.K. My guess is that he’d love life away from Atletico though.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It's a nice idea, but no way Atleti go for that. Not only would they not want to lose Felix at any cost but the two players would cause a hike in their wages.

Maybe the club are thinking about something like that elsewhere, it's not a bad train of thought and I'm not ITK so I can't rule it out.

But I doubt the club is going to do anything here, except MAYBE for just Bernardo, and that's a push. They'll want them to bring their own offers in.

Laporte would probably command the greatest fee. A poster who Ric verified suggested they'd heard that Laporte and Bernardo might need to be sold to help fund Kane, but that's the only the source of that info as of now.

Swap deals are pretty rare, so a 2 for 1 swap seems even more unlikely. I was merely trying to find a solution to our squad size issue should Kane come in.

Having said that, swap deals are more likely at the moment as clubs have nothing to buy with.

 

[Coatigan]

We’d have 1 too many players in our PL & CL squads, so yeah, one would have to go.

Just in the CL squad. But that is likely the one the club build to.

 

[urban genie]

We’d have 1 too many players in our PL & CL squads, so yeah, one would have to go.

How so? We have 21 players in the prem squad out of 25

Champions league we need to drop 1 to comply, would expect that to be carson, if we sign Kane someone else would also need to drop out, berny/laporte if gone?

 

[Coatigan]

How so? We have 21 players in the prem squad out of 25

Champions league we need to drop 1 to comply, would expect that to be carson, if we sign Kane someone else would also need to drop out, berny/laporte if gone?

If Carson was omitted from the CL squad, Kane (or anyone else) could join. Nobody needs left out of PL.

Can't see Carson being left out, given our academy keepers are out on loan, and we need 3 in the CL team.

 

[urban genie]

If Carson was omitted from the CL squad, Kane (or anyone else) could join. Nobody needs left out of PL.

Can't see Carson being left out, given our academy keepers are out on loan, and we need 3 in the CL team.

Nah we have Kyle ;-)

 

[Centurions]

If Carson was omitted from the CL squad, Kane (or anyone else) could join. Nobody needs left out of PL.

Can't see Carson being left out, given our academy keepers are out on loan, and we need 3 in the CL team.

We only need 2 on the 'A' list and 1 on the 'B' list for a minimum total of 3 goalies. Cieran Slicker presumably.

 

[wolviedinho]

I would like to think Bernardo,Laporte & Gabby will remain professional until a move is sorted out. Ideally we want rid of them quickly. If a club wants a player they will find the funds.

Imo City will dig in here and try to set a new selling precedent. We continue to get fleeced on sales for big name players. Eventually the players will get their move. Apart from Laporte the other 2 have been underwhelming for some time. Jack and Harry coming in tells you the club think so aswell.

 

[blue oli]

I would like to think Bernardo,Laporte & Gabby will remain professional until a move is sorted out. Ideally we want rid of them quickly. If a club wants a player they will find the funds.

Imo City will dig in here and try to set a new selling precedent. We continue to get fleeced on sales for big name players. Eventually the players will get their move. Apart from Laporte the other 2 have been underwhelming for some time. Jack and Harry coming in tells you the club think so aswell.

I think this part of how city deal is vastly misunderstood, we don’t get fleeced on deals we help players leaving Man City find the right club for them, and make an exit agreeable for us and the player - which a lot of the time means selling not at top dollar - think it’s all part of a strategy to make city a trusted place for player to come to - if it doesn’t work out we will be more than fair with them to get what they need.

 

[wolviedinho]

I think this part of how city deal is vastly misunderstood, we don’t get fleeced on deals we help players leaving Man City find the right club for them, and make an exit agreeable for us and the player - which a lot of the time means selling not at too dollar - think it’s all part of a strategy to make city a trusted place for player to come to - if it doesn’t work out we will be more than fair with them to get what they need.

I respect how we treat outgoing players. As long as the book cost is covered city are obviously happy. We do not receive fair market value.

 

[Hart of the Matter]

Bookwise, £40m for Jesus would show as a profit, basically even on Bernardo and a loss on Laporte.

It’s an interesting dilemma for the club to decipher.

Couple that with the news regarding KDB and Foden and it makes their decision even harder.

Jesus and Bernardo swapped for Felix is the best I can come up with to square the circles.

Laporte not a loss on books at 40m
We paid roughly 60m for him at 12m a year. He has been with us for 3.5 years = 42m = 18m left on books.

If we sell him for 40 million we free up his original annual amortisation fee plus 22m.
Therefore a 6 year contract at 12 m a year gives us a possible 72m transfer with the extra 22m = 84m pot And all without adding a penny to our annual accounts...

 

[ancoats]

Laporte not a loss on books at 40m
We paid roughly 60m for him at 12m a year. He has been with us for 3.5 years = 42m = 18m left on books.

If we sell him for 40 million we free up his original annual amortisation fee plus 22m.
Therefore a 6 year contract at 12 m a year gives us a possible 72m transfer with the extra 22m = 84m pot And all without adding a penny to our annual accounts...

laporte value should be well over £40million if brighton are getting £50million for ben white