It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

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D'Silva said:
Oh and the English FA would have love it if Pep sent Foden to teams that are hangers on in the PL, I'm sure. Torres to relegation fodder is not gonna happen ditto with Sterling to Arsenal. So in your wisdom the club would rather listen to supporters acting like City is a Make a Wish Foundation so their transfer in and out wishlist is realized? We will surely not be in this position if the flappers got their Gundogan and Mahrez dream transfer out last season. Give me a break!
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blueparrot said:
Similarly you are also just repeating the same thing. Guess we'll see who was right in the summer.
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Not similar at all. I’m stating facts, you’re incorrectly stating something as fact when actually it is incorrect. You said we MUST have one in one out & we really don’t.

PL rules
25 players of which 25 could all be HG, but there is a maximum limit of 17 foreign players, that currently leaves us with 8 spots for HG, of which 4 are already taken this season, leaving 4 spots left for HG.

CL rules are similar in the fact we can have a squad of 25 homegrown players, but 4 have to be club trained. Again you’re allowed a maximum 17 of the 25 to be taken by foreign players, but could also have a squad of 21 HG players should we choose, plus 4 club trained. We currently have 17 + 4 with nobody club trained

So for PL
When Sergio leaves we’re down to 16 foreign players 5 HG as Foden will be over 21. That leaves us with 21, so we could sign another 4 HG players or 1 foreign & 3 HG as per the rules so definitely don’t have to sell anyone

CL
Again, when Sergio leaves: In the CL Foden will take one of the 4 club trained slots next season, so our A list will also include 21 players. 16 foreign, 4 HG & 1 club trained, so again, we can sign one more player, either HG or foreign.

Should we sign Grealish & nobody else, he would be eligible to be added to the CL squad as we haven’t used our full quota of foreign spots. If we sign anyone else, then one player would have to drop out of the squad to facilitate this as the 21 none club trained slots are taken. This does not mean we must sell anyone as you stated.

Ive agreed it’s unlikely, but factually we don’t have to sell anyone to sign another HG player even if we were to sign Haaland

It’s got nothing to do with seeing what happens, your post was factually incorrect, so I was just pointing that out to you as people seem to confuse the CL rules with the PL rules.

What you’ve suggested may well happen, I’ve never disputed that. But what I’ve said is 100% correct & factual, what you said wasn’t.

Apologies if you think I’m being a tit, (it comes naturally to me) but I’m not. I’m merely pointing something out which I’ve seen loads of people get confused about, so just trying to help people understand the rules.

CL & PL have slightly different rules
 
Maly said:
Not similar at all. I’m stating facts, you’re incorrectly stating something as fact when actually it is incorrect. You said we MUST have one in one out & we really don’t.

PL rules
25 players of which 25 could all be HG, but there is a maximum limit of 17 foreign players, that currently leaves us with 8 spots for HG, of which 4 are already taken this season, leaving 4 spots left for HG.

CL rules are similar in the fact we can have a squad of 25 homegrown players, but 4 have to be club trained. Again you’re allowed a maximum 17 of the 25 to be taken by foreign players, but could also have a squad of 21 HG players should we choose, plus 4 club trained. We currently have 17 + 4 with nobody club trained

So for PL
When Sergio leaves we’re down to 16 foreign players 5 HG as Foden will be over 21. That leaves us with 21, so we could sign another 4 HG players or 1 foreign & 3 HG as per the rules so definitely don’t have to sell anyone

CL
Again, when Sergio leaves: In the CL Foden will take one of the 4 club trained slots next season, so our A list will also include 21 players. 16 foreign, 4 HG & 1 club trained, so again, we can sign one more player, either HG or foreign.

Should we sign Grealish & nobody else, he would be eligible to be added to the CL squad as we haven’t used our full quota of foreign spots. If we sign anyone else, then one player would have to drop out of the squad to facilitate this as the 21 none club trained slots are taken. This does not mean we must sell anyone as you stated.

Ive agreed it’s unlikely, but factually we don’t have to sell anyone to sign another HG player even if we were to sign Haaland

It’s got nothing to do with seeing what happens, your post was factually incorrect, so I was just pointing that out to you as people seem to confuse the CL rules with the PL rules.

What you’ve suggested may well happen, I’ve never disputed that. But what I’ve said is 100% correct & factual, what you said wasn’t.

Apologies if you think I’m being a tit, (it comes naturally to me) but I’m not. I’m merely pointing something out which I’ve seen loads of people get confused about, so just trying to help people understand the rules.

CL & PL have slightly different rules
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I understand you are 100% correct in what you are saying I have no argument with any of that we could have 17 plus 8. What I'm saying is if we are trying to guess what the club will do in the summer with transfers and we are all really just guessing,then from my point of veiw we have to make assumptions on what squad make up the club will go for.
I've made my asumption and it's just my guess we will do what we have done before and meet the C/L criteria. In which case I can only see us using the 4 homegrown spots the C/L allows though Foden will be club trained to it gives us 5 places instead of 4 but he was in this year as U 21 anyway..
 
razman said:
Lyon would be open to sell Housem Aouar for €30m as per @lequipe

Thats a bargain
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That is a great price if true, but i can't see both him and Grealish coming.
We will need to be getting rid of more than just Dinho if that's the case.
 
blueparrot said:
I understand you are 100% correct in what you are saying I have no argument with any of that we could have 17 plus 8. What I'm saying is if we are trying to guess what the club will do in the summer with transfers and we are all really just guessing,then from my point of veiw we have to make assumptions on what squad make up the club will go for.
I've made my asumption and it's just my guess we will do what we have done before and meet the C/L criteria. In which case I can only see us using the 4 homegrown spots the C/L allows though Foden will be club trained to it gives us 5 places instead of 4 but he was in this year as U 21 anyway..
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Fair enough, but when you say the word must, that implies that there are no options.

I agree that your assumption is the likely outcome mate. Went round in fucking circles there didn’t we eh? :)
 
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