It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

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tolmie's hairdoo said:
True enough.

He was swallowed whole by Chelsea in those games.

He doesn't look half the player he was maybe three years ago.

Maybe I'm mixing him up with Koke, another player who also has a rep better than his talents?

Partey was always the guy in midfield who caught my eye, rather than the other two and Rodri.

Partey has hardly ripped it up at Arsenal when fit.
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It's hard to judge a midfielder playing in an Atletico team. Especially a defensive one. They are such a solid well organised team and that makes it hard to judge.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I do think Khaldoon's recent interview about being "canny" and creative in the market is starting to show itself by some of these suggestions players will be moving out.

We want Kane and Grealish, which is more than the cash at hand.

There's no way we would press ahead on these for so long if we didn't have a fair indication from members of our current squad as to who might be open to moving on.

Moreso, in Mendes, we have an agent who knows exactly what each club is after.
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Sure I read somewhere Gestifute get 25% of any sales,is that right?
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I do think Khaldoon's recent interview about being "canny" and creative in the market is starting to show itself by some of these suggestions players will be moving out.

We want Kane and Grealish, which is more than the cash at hand.

There's no way we would press ahead on these for so long if we didn't have a fair indication from members of our current squad as to who might be open to moving on.

Moreso, in Mendes, we have an agent who knows exactly what each club is after.
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Has to be said I'll be right pissed off if we get that diving tosser. Diving is a major bain of football and he's right up there as one of the worst offenders ( certainly in the PL )
 
SPIDERBOY said:
Sure I read somewhere Gestifute get 25% of any sales,is that right?
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True, on some deals particularly with Wolves - not with us though. I've spoken to agents before and that is on the very very high end of the scale. FIFA are wanting to clamp down on percentages that high though.
 
domalino said:
But do we care about how he's playing under Simeone, in a system he's publicly criticised, and under a manager he loves but calls too defensive...or do we care about how Pep would use him?

Is it a surprise he is struggling when Simeone has moved him all over the place and chopped and changed formations?

We all know he's got the quality, so does it matter if he's not in form?


As long as we arent paying "on form" prices it shouldn't stop us IMO.
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If his attributes are to be more attacking, then I don't think we really need him?

We need someone behind the ball and not caught regularly ahead of it in the present midfield.

Especially so, if we do complete on Grealish.

If you are saying he can be a midfield destroyer in the Fern fashion, then I would be all for it, but still not at expense of Bernie.

I'd be willingly offering Rodri back to Atletico for Saul first.

I don't rate Rodri and I know it puts me at odds with both Pep and the majority of Blues, no doubt, but he lacks the two ingredients that I personally want from any defensive midfield screen, which is energy and a willingness to get hurt.

If Castles is floating this idea, it tells me it is nothing more than a staging post from Mendes, a suggestion at best.

He knows the market is suppressed and the £80m Bernie is worth isn't out there in cold hard cash on the continent.
 
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Onlymcfc said:
True, on some deals particularly with Wolves - not with us though. I've spoken to agents before and that is on the very very high end of the scale. FIFA are wanting to clamp down on percentages that high though.
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It was a player we were linked with and the selling club wanted £40m minimum,but the selling price was more £50m to pay the agents 25%.
Crazy.
 
SPIDERBOY said:
It was a player we were linked with and the selling club wanted £40m minimum,but the selling price was more £50m to pay the agents 25%.
Crazy.
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It's often factored in, however agents can become flexible if it is a sticking point and the player badly wants the move. Many are switching to representing themselves / family members over agents now, even though that also brings issues.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
If his attributes are to be more attacking, then I don't think we really need him?

We need someone behind the ball and not caught regularly ahead of it in the present midfield.

Especially so, if we do complete on Grealish.

If you are saying he can be a midfield destroyer in the Fern fashion, then I would be all for it, but still not at expense of Bernie.

I'd be willingly offering Rodri back to Atletico for Saul first.

I don't rate the kid, and know it puts me at odds with both Pep and the majority of Blues, no doubt, but he lacks the two ingredients that I personally want from any defensive midfield screen, which is energy and a willingness to get hurt.

If Castles is floating this idea, it tells me it is nothing more than a staging post from Mendes, a suggestion at best.

He knows the market is suppressed and the £80m Bernie is worth isn't out there in cold hard cash on the continent.
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If we let Bernardo leave and to Atletico, it will be for Felix, they want him out and to me he is the perfect Pep player, and we have history in trying to get him before.

Any Rumours on Sterling and his contract?
 
Wonder if we'll do some dodgy dealings like with the Pjanic and Arthur deal last summer. Each club buys each player for an extortionate fee to balance the books or some shit like that
 
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