It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

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hope Barcelona sign Rodri there again pep and the Spanish boy's dont trust him so need another buyer sharpish before his value reaches rock bottom after they read this thread
 
SWPISHOME said:
No. Our last game before the final was Everton at home which was a really good performance again there was no Rodri in the team it was Fernandinho and I think Foden played a central role in that game too which meant Sterling started. Obviously something in that game which made Pep go again with Sterling and Foden more central for the Champions League Final. Rodri not even in the plans to start. If anyone was to start between Rodri and Fernandinho it clearly would of been Fernandinho.

For the way we play it doesn't suit Rodri he is not able for an intense press on top of that dwelling on the ball getting caught in possession which we have seen numerous times this season.
He's more suited to La Liga than the Premier League.
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You don’t like Rodri Pep and the Spanish National manager does Pep is a genius you are not
 
willipp said:
For the guy who played more than any other midfielder last season in one of the most successful seasons weve ever had as a club, he must be pretty well suited to the way Pep wants to play.
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Sterling also played nearly every game in the previous season and still gets bombarded by fans.
I'd love Rodri to succeed, But I'm not convinced over the last two years that he will be good enough to replace Fernandinho.
 
grim up north said:
You don’t like Rodri Pep and the Spanish National manager does Pep is a genius you are not
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When did I ever say I don't like the Spanish National manager? Are you talking shit again...
Plus I never said "I don't like Rodri". I said "I don't think he is suited to the way we play and not convinced he can replace Fernandinho".

You carry on pulling one off thinking of Eric Garcia good lad.
 
doobyedoobye said:
I'd be very surprised if this was a simple choice that Pep prefers Kane over Haaland... I'm convinced this has more to do with money
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I'd say it's a bit of both. I think Kane is more obviously suited to us because of his link up play. Not that Haaland can't or won't do that, but Kane seems the most obvious immediate fit to our style of play. But you're also prob right on the financial front. We've shown a few times with the big name players that we don't like to play silly buggers with agents and their fees. If that's our stance then I'm happy with it - it's served us pretty fucking well over the Pep years, and the trophy cabinet proves it. Whatever the club decides, numerous factors will have been considered and we'll opt for the right decision based on the evidence. If that means us getting Kane, then great. Frankly, the bedwetting if Chelsea get Haaaland and we 'only' end up with someone who is almost certainly going to be the Premier League's record goalscorer, is utterly hysterical.
 
SWPISHOME said:
Sterling also played nearly every game in the previous season and still gets bombarded by fans.
I'd love Rodri to succeed, But I'm not convinced over the last two years that he will be good enough to replace Fernandinho.
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Yeah i know what you mean. I think with Sterling its the fact that he's gone from scoring and assisting so many goals, to suddenly dropping of a cliff thats made him open to so much criticism. His productivity always papered over some of his failures in front of goal and thats now glaring everyone in the face.

Rodri in his first season looked lost and up to a point this season i felt he would never be suited to our style and the prem. I do think he showed enough last season though to keep going and next season will be make or break as i presume he will be coming up for contract renewel time. Big season for him.
 
willipp said:
Yeah i know what you mean. I think with Sterling its the fact that he's gone from scoring and assisting so many goals, to suddenly dropping of a cliff thats made him open to so much criticism. His productivity always papered over some of his failures in front of goal and thats now glaring everyone in the face.

Rodri in his first season looked lost and up to a point this season i felt he would never be suited to our style and the prem. I do think he showed enough last season though to keep going and next season will be make or break as i presume he will be coming up for contract renewel time. Big season for him.
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Massive season for Rodri and also depends on who plays alongside him, The double pivot doesn't work when alongside Gundogan. I think he's alot better when we have Bernardo and De Bruyne in with him two players with legs that can get around.
Maybe after watching Fernandinho for so long we were being spoiled we were able to play a two man midfield with Fernandinho and Yaya Toure under Pellegrini that's how good Fernandinho is. Big boots to fill.
 
SWPISHOME said:
When did I ever say I don't like the Spanish National manager? Are you talking shit again...
Plus I never said "I don't like Rodri". I said "I don't think he is suited to the way we play and not convinced he can replace Fernandinho".

You carry on pulling one off thinking of Eric Garcia good lad.
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sorry you are a football genius my bad
 
wolviedinho said:
Rodri has many good qualities unfortunately for city he lacks the pace needed to play and dominate teams in England. His lack of awareness on the pitch when pressed causes our defence serious problems. Get after him and he will continue to pass the ball back to the defence.

I appreciate the different points of view but politely disagree on Rodri. His other qualities do not negate his lack of mobility.
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I'd understand your opinion to an extent if you were talking about the CL (where, btw, we won all games in which Rodri started). But you are talking about "teams in England", given that City won the title by 12 pts and were 2 wins away from another domestic treble, with Rodri playing more minutes than any other player. With Rodri in the team, and without Fernandinho, we won against Liverpool 4:0 and 4:1, and they are the best at counter attacking in England.

We were losing games (against counter-attacking teams in England and Europe) before Rodri and we will lose games after Rodri. We lost a very important game vs Newcastle back in 2019 after a bad mistake by Fernandinho. Had Liverpool won their game in hand vs Leicester, our title challenge would have been over because of Fernandinho. Several weeks after that Fernandinho got injured, Gundogan replaced him at DM and we won all our games while conceding just 2-3 goals. Statistically, our defence was better with Gundogan at DM than with Fernandinho. And Gundogan isn't quicker than Rodri. So, there's that as well.

Also, the closest we came to beat Tuchel's Chelsea was with Rodri on his own in midfield. Had Aguero scored the pen, Rodri would have been praised for dealing on his own with Chelsea's midfield.

It's amazing how many City fans don't like many of the players who were just 3 wins away from the quadruple. It's naive to think we can easily upgrade on Rodri, Jesus, Sterling or Bernardo (unproductive!). Before the start of last season people thought we should move Gundogan and Mahrez. They were wrong.
 
alexmcity said:
I'd understand your opinion to an extent if you were talking about the CL (where, btw, we won all games in which Rodri started). But you are talking about "teams in England", given that City won the title by 12 pts and were 2 wins away from another domestic treble, with Rodri playing more minutes than any other player. With Rodri in the team, and without Fernandinho, we won against Liverpool 4:0 and 4:1, and they are the best at counter attacking in England.

We were losing games (against counter-attacking teams in England and Europe) before Rodri and we will lose games after Rodri. We lost a very important game vs Newcastle back in 2019 after a bad mistake by Fernandinho. Had Liverpool won their game in hand vs Leicester, our title challenge would have been over because of Fernandinho. Several weeks after that Fernandinho got injured, Gundogan replaced him at DM and we won all our games while conceding just 2-3 goals. Statistically, our defence was better with Gundogan at DM than with Fernandinho. And Gundogan isn't quicker than Rodri. So, there's that as well.

Also, the closest we came to beat Tuchel's Chelsea was with Rodri on his own in midfield. Had Aguero scored the pen, Rodri would have been praised for dealing on his own with Chelsea's midfield.

It's amazing how many City fans don't like many of the players who were just 3 wins away from the quadruple. It's naive to think we can easily upgrade on Rodri, Jesus, Sterling or Bernardo (unproductive!). Before the start of last season people thought we should move Gundogan and Mahrez. They were wrong.
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Well said.

It's my opinion that no DM that we could buy would be as good as Fernandinho (caveat - I haven't seen enough, but I can't imagine there are too many that are up to his standard) but Rodri has put in some excellent performances for us over the last two seasons. So we have to ask ourselves is it worth shelling out millions to even try to buy a new DM?

Spain clearly rates Rodri and I'll be interested to see how he (plus Laporte and Torres) get on with Spain this summer.

Here's what at least one Spanish journalist thinks of him:-

www.theguardian.com

Rodri: the heir to Busquets now justifying the talent-spotters’ faith

The Manchester City midfielder has made a mockery of those who thought he would never make it and vindicated his mentors at Villarreal
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
alexmcity said:
I'd understand your opinion to an extent if you were talking about the CL (where, btw, we won all games in which Rodri started). But you are talking about "teams in England", given that City won the title by 12 pts and were 2 wins away from another domestic treble, with Rodri playing more minutes than any other player. With Rodri in the team, and without Fernandinho, we won against Liverpool 4:0 and 4:1, and they are the best at counter attacking in England.

We were losing games (against counter-attacking teams in England and Europe) before Rodri and we will lose games after Rodri. We lost a very important game vs Newcastle back in 2019 after a bad mistake by Fernandinho. Had Liverpool won their game in hand vs Leicester, our title challenge would have been over because of Fernandinho. Several weeks after that Fernandinho got injured, Gundogan replaced him at DM and we won all our games while conceding just 2-3 goals. Statistically, our defence was better with Gundogan at DM than with Fernandinho. And Gundogan isn't quicker than Rodri. So, there's that as well.

Also, the closest we came to beat Tuchel's Chelsea was with Rodri on his own in midfield. Had Aguero scored the pen, Rodri would have been praised for dealing on his own with Chelsea's midfield.

It's amazing how many City fans don't like many of the players who were just 3 wins away from the quadruple. It's naive to think we can easily upgrade on Rodri, Jesus, Sterling or Bernardo (unproductive!). Before the start of last season people thought we should move Gundogan and Mahrez. They were wrong.
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The same counter argument only with more padding. Stats can be twisted to suit the stance you want to take. The wheels very nearly came off after the United defeat in the league. We limped over the line imo.

Pep was playing Gundo in the wrong position. He was moved to 10 and flourished. Mahrez was hit and miss until this season. The players performance was rightly scrutinised.

Man point remains: Rodri is slow and immobile.

A 36 year old had to step up again.

The Rodri you are talking about needs battlers and runners around him. Take those players out of the line up and we are sitting ducks with an exposed soft underbelly.

I feel like I’m going around in circles here and constantly repeating the same arguments. I will leave this discussion at the moment. It’s getting a bit tedious and that not an attack on you blue.
 
SWPISHOME said:
When did I ever say I don't like the Spanish National manager? Are you talking shit again...
Plus I never said "I don't like Rodri". I said "I don't think he is suited to the way we play and not convinced he can replace Fernandinho".

You carry on pulling one off thinking of Eric Garcia good lad.
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I think rodri would be more suited going back to the spanish league where he has more time to show off his passing ability ,r madrid would be a good move for him.
You may laugh at my opinion but some of his game reminds me of retired ex madrid player redondo.

On luis enrique i think he may have a shout of being the next manager at city with his links with the spanish guys , when pg eventually calls it a day .
 
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