It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

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a bidding war for haaland will start on the 9th of june when the official transfer window will be open
you can bet his agent as already got him sold with all the traveling he did to barcelona hahahaha

that pimp Raiola will not let him move next season for cheap and get next to nothing in fee's when he can get top dollar right now ? dortmund have said they don't want to sell ? but does the player want to move to win silverware and titles. also Raiola deal with haaland is up next season and haaland is free to get another agent or go it alone like KDB
I am not sure I see your logic, mate.

If the buying club have to pay less to the selling club, they will have more spend on agents’ fees. And because the transfer fee is smaller, there will be more clubs in the mix, and so you’ll see the competition pushing those agents’ fees even higher. Plus, as things are now, clubs are a bit short of cash. There’ll be more money floating around the game in a year’s time.

I think he will move next summer.
 
I am not sure I see your logic, mate.

If the buying club have to pay less to the selling club, they will have more spend on agents’ fees. And because the transfer fee is smaller, there will be more clubs in the mix, and so you’ll see the competition pushing those agents’ fees even higher. Plus, as things are now, clubs are a bit short of cash. There’ll be more money floating around the game in a year’s time.

I think he will move next summer.
There will be no bidding wars with anyone.

This is a buyers market, only a handful of clubs have any cash to spend, us probably one and even with us we have to be sensible.
 
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Werner, think he'll score at least 20 next season. That said if he gets an injury that causes him to lose a yard of pace, it might allow him to stay onside more often and he might get 30 goals!

Kane or Haaland. Neither for me. But we do need a striker.

All this talk of Grealish, sorry but I think he's a show pony, slightly bigger fish in a small pond who will be exposed for his weaknesses if he moves up a level. A player who is fouled twice as many times as anyone else in the league would get fuck all playing for us. He'd be hacked down six times a game and be lucky if one was given as a free kick.

Bernardo, improved second half of the season but I haven't seen the Bernie of 2 years ago so if he was makeweight in a deal for someone else then so be it. Similar with Jesus, he ain't a 9, would be better out wide competing with Phil/Mahrez.

If anyone wants Raz and the price is right I'd drive him there myself.

So glad you aren't running our club.
 
That’s not how the world works.

I’ll have another go.
Just read it through and I‘ll try to explain better this time.

If Haaland is worth €150M (that is to say that a club would be willing to pay €150M + whatever salary Haaland demanded etc.). And Dortmund got an offer at €150M, and wanted to sell him. Then they would need to get Haaland’s consent.
Haaland and his agent and Haaland’s dad would want to get as much out of the deal now as they would get if Haaland stayed until the agreed fee clause kicks in.
Why should they accept anything less?
So no, Dortmund are not better off selling Haaland now or next summer, because Dortmund don’t call the shots - Haaland, Raiola and Haaland’s dad do that.

Haaland, his agent and Haaland’s dad will always get their cut and Haaland will only ever be sold at his maximum market value.
If Dortmund has agreed a release clause of €65M, that kicks in next summer, and Haaland is valued at €150M next summer, then Haaland and his his entourage will pocket the difference between €65M and €150M = £85M.
If Haaland & Co were to agree to be sold this summer, it would only be because Haaland & Co were getting their £85M out of the deal, either as an €85M bite out of a €150M fee paid to Dortmund or by way of Dortmund getting €65M and Haaland & Co getting peripheral payments from the selling club to a combined value of €85M (signing on bonus, agents & advisor fees, increased salary to Haaland across the term of the deal etc.).

I don’t understand how anyone can think that there’s some magic spell that will induce Haaland, Raiola and Haaland’s dad to wave goodbye to even the smallest part of the €85M that will be their’s for the taking in 12 months.

In short; in a scenario where there is an agreement that Haaland can be sold for €65M next summer, and where Haaland has a market value of €150M, the buying club will always have to pay €150M in some way or other.
Haaland & Co will get €85M of that and Dortmund will get €65M of that.
That will remain the case until towards the end of Haaland’s contract when, if he were still worth €150M, the portion of that going to Dortmund would start to reduce and the portion going to Haaland & Co would increase.
At the end of the Haaland / Dortmund contract, when Haaland can walk on a free, if he still has a market value of €150M then that’s what the buying club will pay (in some way or other - signing on bonus, agents fees, ginormous salary etc.).

What the buying club is willing pay (total outlay, purchase fee, agents fee, dad’s bung fee, players salary etc). is the player’s market value.

What the buying club is willing to pay is based on their valuation, their valuation is subject to due diligence and it does not alter due to who gets what part of what the buying club is willing to pay.

In very short;
Haaland has a market value and the market value is what the buying club is willing to pay. Haaland, Raiola & Haaland’s dad will not relinquish one single brass farthing of their dues - they will get every last cent of it.
If he’s valued at €150M (more than one club interested at thereabouts) then that’s what the buying club will always have to pay either up front, or part up front and as various fees and bonuses throughout the contract term etc.
There are no discounts.
There are no magic spells.
Dortmund will only ever get the €65M that’s due to them, regardless of whether he’s sold this summer or next summer.

Does that help?

Not in the slightest. In what world would they pocket the difference between Dortmund's asking price this year and the next. They wouldn't. And no club would pay it.

His value isn't 150m. There is no value. There is simply an asking price. the rest is wages and incentives. Wages and incentives will be high either way, and based on what they can get from either us or other clubs, not on their cut of an arbitrary made up transfer value.

Sure, next year they may ask for more in incentives and wages, as he will have maybe proven himself even more, and as the asking price is less they may feel clubs can stretch further.

But that isn't pocketing a cut of this year's asking price, that's just an absurd take on it.
 
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Ridiculous comment about Kane. I get why people would prefer Haaland over Kane, but that is just crap. He ain't no ones plan B or C.

Both are top quality strikers, it's just that one is 7/8 years younger than the other. People just need to accept the fact Dortmund are a financially sound club who wont need to sell Haaland once they sell Sancho.

And if there is a preference towards a player 7/8 years younger, with better attributes and pace already scoring more at a top level, which might not be available, then that makes him by default plan B. A good one, fair enough, but nowhere near as good as a few here make out either.
 
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Does my head in pal and not just him. People will always have their preferences, but transfers ain't always black and white. Who is to say Haaland wants to move? Maybe at 20/21 he is thinking I dont want to move this summer. I play for one of the biggest clubs in Europe in front of 70 odd thousand( when stadiums open completely) and I'll have the pick of the top teams in 12 months time. Maybe Kane is the only choice, and what a fucking choice he is!

The transfer window hasn't even opened. There have been no hints we are in for either player nor that we aren't looking at both. It is ok to have a preference towards one or the other, and also to point out when people go way over the top in exaggerating one over the other.

Of course Haaland might not want to move, or even if he did, might not be affordable in what the club are prepared to pay. Same can be said for Kane, although he has at least hinted he wants to move (which people have taken to be a done deal, to us).

But saying he guarantees 40 goals a season and league titles next 5 years is crap. For either player really, but the claim then extends to say the other wouldn't cut it. So if my pointing that out does your head in, apologies, but I stand by my point.
 
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In response to the last 40 plus pages on here.

Werner, think he'll score at least 20 next season. That said if he gets an injury that causes him to lose a yard of pace, it might allow him to stay onside more often and he might get 30 goals!

Kane or Haaland. Neither for me. But we do need a striker.

All this talk of Grealish, sorry but I think he's a show pony, slightly bigger fish in a small pond who will be exposed for his weaknesses if he moves up a level. A player who is fouled twice as many times as anyone else in the league would get fuck all playing for us. He'd be hacked down six times a game and be lucky if one was given as a free kick.

Bernardo, improved second half of the season but I haven't seen the Bernie of 2 years ago so if he was makeweight in a deal for someone else then so be it. Similar with Jesus, he ain't a 9, would be better out wide competing with Phil/Mahrez.

If anyone wants Raz and the price is right I'd drive him there myself.

anything positive to say mate?
 
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