Jack Byrne

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WNRH said:
Yeah exactly, just like he did to Jack Wilshere, Daniel Sturridge and Marcos Alonso, ruined their careers he did......
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Who gives a fuck about those players, two of them went on loan from Arsenal and Chelsea and Bolton bought the third one.

Still you can be besties with Coyle if you like, it is a free world after all.
 
bluealf said:
Is this the Coyle that also ruined Boyata and Vlad Weiss ?

Proven form for fucking young players on loan.
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We should have kept Boyata instead of signing Savic.

Away from that, though, sometimes young players going out on loan just don't work out, other times they work brilliantly.

Manager plays a role but can't put the blame entirely on Coyle. Just like you can't credit him too much with Wilshere and Sturridge. The manager simply gives the youngster a platform from which to build.

We as a club have a responsibility to think very carefully when selecting a club to entrust with one of our youngsters, knowing full well the potential consequences of getting it wrong. The manager, playing style (make sure we have a clear picture of how that player will fit into their side), the culture and atmosphere of the club and many other factors come into play.

Obviously having considered all that, we concluded Blackburn was suitable. I hope that decision was considered throughly and we didn't just accept the first offer from a team in a good league.

Coyle's an experienced man and I'm sure he has a reason for not picking him. When in a relegation battle you'd think managers would consider every option possible; somewhere along the line he must have looked at Jack, and, for a reason we don't know, believed their best chance of winning games lies elsewhere. We can slag Coyle off all we like but I am sure if he posted on here there would be a reasonable explanation.
 
bluealf said:
Who gives a fuck about those players, two of them went on loan from Arsenal and Chelsea and Bolton bought the third one.

Still you can be besties with Coyle if you like, it is a free world after all.
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What a strange post.
 
I would like to see Jack go to New York. Vieira knows him well and it would be better than kicking his heels on the bench. Maybe the football isn't the highest standard, but it may just give his career the push it needs.
 
mad zab said:
I would like to see Jack go to New York. Vieira knows him well and it would be better than kicking his heels on the bench. Maybe the football isn't the highest standard, but it may just give his career the push it needs.
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I agree.

Now that lampard and Iraola have retired, NYCFC are very short in midfield and only really have one first XI quality player (Pirlo) left in the squad. I think Jack would be playing every week if he went there.

Also, Vieira tries to play an expansive style and control possession, which suits his game.

The quality isn't THAT bad - maybe Championship or League One standard, depending on the opposition.

Having said all that, Vieira didn't take any City loanees last season and they don't have many spare international spots so i'd say it's unlikely.
 
Only half a season in but this must go down as one of the worst loans in recent years. He went from shining in a shit side to not playing at all in a shit side.
 
TTS said:
I agree.

Now that lampard and Iraola have retired, NYCFC are very short in midfield and only really have one first XI quality player (Pirlo) left in the squad. I think Jack would be playing every week if he went there.

Also, Vieira tries to play an expansive style and control possession, which suits his game.

The quality isn't THAT bad - maybe Championship or League One standard, depending on the opposition.

Having said all that, Vieira didn't take any City loanees last season and they don't have many spare international spots so i'd say it's unlikely.
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Its all relative really. Barca B play in a shocking league but have the right style, coaches, facilities etc to churn out footballers. The closest equivalent a club in the UK can get is NYC, its as much about the club we send him to as it is the league. At NY we would have so much more control over his development while he plays in, relatively, an alright league.

Plus might pick up a thing or two off Pirlo, Viera and Villa
 
to be fair, Wilshere & Sturridge are on a different level to Byrne, Weiss, Boyata, Miyaichi. I think it's less down to the loans under Coyle and more to do with the actual calibre of the players, somehow.
 
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Eslam elcity said:
I heard that Ireland biggest fpptball club @dundalkfc enquired about the possibility of loaning Byrne in January until the end of the season .
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Irelands biggest club? They wouldn't be in the top 3 Dundalk have money from playing in Europe but jacks probably to good for LoI football,Cork City did have O'Connell from celtic on loan last season but got called back early he's played a fair few games since for them
 
Wilfried Chicken KFC said:
I Irelands biggest club? They wouldn't be in the top 3 Dundalk have money from playing in Europe but jacks probably to good for LoI football,Cork City did have O'Connell from celtic on loan last season but got called back early he's played a fair few games since for them
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Eh they're the biggest club in Ireland now in terms of success anyway, head and shoulder above the rest the last 2 seasons. But I reckon they will be on the decline now after losing the likes of Horgan and Boyle to PNE aswell as Finn heading off to Shamrock Rovers. Nice space in midfield now which Byrne could slot into
 
The Twigg said:
Eh they're the biggest club in Ireland now in terms of success anyway, head and shoulder above the rest the last 2 seasons. But I reckon they will be on the decline now after losing the likes of Horgan and Boyle to PNE aswell as Finn heading off to Shamrock Rovers. Nice space in midfield now which Byrne could slot into
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If only for fitness purposes game time ect he'd still be to good better off trying to get back into the Blackburn team better standard,your right about Dundalk they'll have lost the spine of their team Cork City and shamrock rovers will be stronger next season Sligo too imo
 
It's a shame that it hasn't worked out for him at Blackburn. I was looking forward to seeing how he'd fare in the Championship.
 
Very worrying this for the future career of him,we all know Blackburn are not a prem club these days,but they have a tremendous training facility/set up and most would have thought he would have been able to push on with his development
 
If your face doesn't fit with the manager, as is seemingly the case here, then it won't work out for youu regardless of the training facilities and set-up.
 
Ric said:
If your face doesn't fit with the manager, as is seemingly the case here, then it won't work out for youu regardless of the training facilities and set-up.
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Well let us see what happens next,but no game time hardly there,it can only mean going lower
 
FantasyIreland said:
Are you struggling with the face didn't fit part?
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Are you spouting off cause the boss man has spoken ? Face the facts he's not been good enough to play for Blackburn,face fitting or not,they are shite,3rd bottom and struggling,or do you just look at Prem table and ignore all other football ? As much as people have a lot of faith in our youth players out on loan,there seems to be a few that are really struggling out there,so maybe they are not as good as some seem to think

Btw you are very uppity for a mod,does power go to your head ?
 
Who knows he might even come back and impress Guardiola. It's a long shot but he has different qualities to our other midfielders and is as good as Aleix Garcia IMO.
 
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