Jack Wilshere (merged)

Re: Jack Wilshere

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To put it simply, Cleverley is incredibly over-hyped. In 3 years time he will be in a bottom half side.


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How dare you say such things about Zinedine Zidane Cleverley.
 
Re: Jack Wilshere

adrianr said:
dennishasdoneit said:
adrianr said:
Typical English media hype about English player aside (He isn't all our Euro hopes rolled into one basket of course, this would imply we actually have any hope to roll), Wilshere is a very talented footballer for his age make no mistake about it. As long as this injury isn't something that ruins his career he will be the person Arsenal build their midfield around and with good reason.

He,ll do well to displace Roberto Song as the true king-pin of their midfield. Song has been outstanding for most of the season( without the media hype)..just look at any video of van-rapists goals this season and see how many are the product of a fantastic chipped pass from Song..this from a player who is known for his tackling and ability to sit deep and screen the back four..as i,ve said, hardly mentioned on sky..

Thats the difference between young english players like Wilshere/Cleverley....media fawn over them..good players maybe but Songs ability and control has been overlooked..as an aside, did yaya.s brilliant last half hour on saturday draw any world class comments?...imagine if that had been Wilshere!

Have to disagree mate, he'll replace him. Song is a very odd player. He's supposed to be a DM but has nothing like the discipline to play there, that's why you often find him chipping balls to Van Persie leaving the team exposed on the counter, or someone having to fill in for him. He's also not an attacking midfielder like your Silvas or Fabregases because he simply isn't that gifted. Wilshere on the other hand when asked to play DM was a better DM than Song. He's a better holding player than Song, and he's a better ACM than Song. He'll have no trouble at all replacing Song (even though the position Song is supposed to be playing isn't the position Wilshere is best at or will/should be used in).

As above, he's one of the exceptions where the hype is (largely at least) justified. He could be huge for Englands future and he will be huge for Arsenals, providing he's not surrounded by endless dross in either side.

we,ll see..jack the lad has to sort himself out first..in more ways than one.
he has to get himself on to the pitch to displace Song....discipline is important...when you are over-hyped,young, and english, you like a drink, you like a night out,. you spit at taxi drivers, you feel pressure..you get caught fighting outside nightclubs..
Song on the other hand has only his choice of wild hair style to worry about.. ..

i can see elements of a nasty streak in wilshere..got a feeling its gonna cost him big time.i see talent also, and the barca performance made me sit up and take notice..but that performance may also have gone to his head..may have come to early for him,his mates and his hangers-on....we,ll see.
 
Re: Jack Wilshere

dennishasdoneit said:
adrianr said:
dennishasdoneit said:
He,ll do well to displace Roberto Song as the true king-pin of their midfield. Song has been outstanding for most of the season( without the media hype)..just look at any video of van-rapists goals this season and see how many are the product of a fantastic chipped pass from Song..this from a player who is known for his tackling and ability to sit deep and screen the back four..as i,ve said, hardly mentioned on sky..

Thats the difference between young english players like Wilshere/Cleverley....media fawn over them..good players maybe but Songs ability and control has been overlooked..as an aside, did yaya.s brilliant last half hour on saturday draw any world class comments?...imagine if that had been Wilshere!

Have to disagree mate, he'll replace him. Song is a very odd player. He's supposed to be a DM but has nothing like the discipline to play there, that's why you often find him chipping balls to Van Persie leaving the team exposed on the counter, or someone having to fill in for him. He's also not an attacking midfielder like your Silvas or Fabregases because he simply isn't that gifted. Wilshere on the other hand when asked to play DM was a better DM than Song. He's a better holding player than Song, and he's a better ACM than Song. He'll have no trouble at all replacing Song (even though the position Song is supposed to be playing isn't the position Wilshere is best at or will/should be used in).

As above, he's one of the exceptions where the hype is (largely at least) justified. He could be huge for Englands future and he will be huge for Arsenals, providing he's not surrounded by endless dross in either side.

we,ll see..jack the lad has to sort himself out first..in more ways than one.
he has to get himself on to the pitch to displace Song....discipline is important...when you are over-hyped,young, and english, you like a drink, you like a night out,. you spit at taxi drivers, you feel pressure..you get caught fighting outside nightclubs..
Song on the other hand has only his choice of wild hair style to worry about.. ..

i can see elements of a nasty streak in wilshere..got a feeling its gonna cost him big time.i see talent also, and the barca performance made me sit up and take notice..but that performance may also have gone to his head..may have come to early for him,his mates and his hangers-on....we,ll see.

Can't argue with that. Will certainly be interesting to see if he develops as hoped. I think his talent will win out in the end but maybe he'll always just be a complete **** like Rooney (you have to dispair sometimes. Rooney, Terry, Cole, Wilshere? Our 'world class' players tend to be wankers - Hopefully our academy can set a few things straight for the future!).
 
who give's a fuck anyway not a man city problem
and as for england well are we ever going to have a team when the FA pick jones smalling kelly walker for richards at rightback

Jack Wilshere who gives a fuck
 

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