Jadon Sancho

[Paul1970]

Great player but has an ego has big as the city and by all accounts Dortmund are getting pissed off with his off the field antics . Do we really need a player like that at city . Can’t see pep bothering tbh .

 

[Silva2021]

The idea that every player will see what Sancho did and do that is a very strange statement.

Arguably our best Academy graduate, certainly our most successful to date.

So your talking about unearthing an absolute gem.

There is also the fact he was behind Phil in the pecking order, local lad, fantastic ability, City fan. When there was 20 minutes to be had here and there it was only ever going to Phil.

The club took the decision to sell, this is our clubs policy sign a new contract or we get some money.

Sancho hit the ground running at Dortmund, City academy played a huge part in that. As someone says the academy offers a route into football, makes City a load of money and hopefully we pick up some home grown talent along the way.

 

[Blu3m00n91]

I want this club to have an identity where the clubs is willing to give youth a chance. It’s not a good look when we let Sancho go and then a few years later look to bring him back for 100+ million plus. What message does that give to other academy kids. We are definitely built to win now but that’s not an excuse to give younger kids a chance going forward. Other wise what’s the point spending so much money on a academy. Over the next 5/10 this clubs first team needs to be at least a quarter of it promoted from our academy

 

[twosips]

The idea that every player will see what Sancho did and do that is a very strange statement.

Arguably our best Academy graduate, certainly our most successful to date.

So your talking about unearthing an absolute gem.

There is also the fact he was behind Phil in the pecking order, local lad, fantastic ability, City fan. When there was 20 minutes to be had here and there it was only ever going to Phil.

The club took the decision to sell, this is our clubs policy sign a new contract or we get some money.

Sancho hit the ground running at Dortmund, City academy played a huge part in that. As someone says the academy offers a route into football, makes City a load of money and hopefully we pick up some home grown talent along the way.

There's literally nowt to suggest he was behind Phil in the pecking order. Sancho left City before Foden made his City debut, so its just guesswork. You could be right, but we literally don't know. Both were training with the first team at that point. If anything, given that Sancho was notably physically bigger than Foden (and still is now) at 17, I think Sancho would have been ahead of him. Sancho was more 'ready' at a younger age cos of his size. Sancho also plays in a more risk-free position. Winger is just about the safest position for any kid to get a chance. Still, a guess on my behalf too.

 

[twosips]

I mostly agree on Sancho, and the youth philosophy in general, but I'd argue that the real failing isn't necessarily that we haven't brought through X amount of players, it's that we've tried with so few and have so little credibility in the bank that the most talented guys don't see a real path forward when we tell them that they need to be patient and trust us. Obviously the vast, vast majority won't be good enough, but if we had a 16 year old Kylian Mbappe in our youth system right now, would he be playing for City in two years or for Dortmund? Hard to say. Whatever hit we take in terms of short term competitiveness thats the problem we need to solve.

Tbh, it's also simply a failure if we're letting future £100m+ (potentially) worth class home-grown assets slip out of our hands. In a pure business sense, that's not good.

 

[cjn]

Tbh, it's also simply a failure if we're letting future £100m+ (potentially) worth class home-grown assets slip out of our hands. In a pure business sense, that's not good.

Totally, and not even just from a business perspective. From a competitive standpoint, for every Sancho thats, as you say, potentially £100m in spend to deploy elsewhere in the squad, because the wing is locked down. And that goes for guys like Zinchenko also. He's not a star but we took a £2m asset and now have a very serviceable squad player. Hard for me to believe that we don't have guys in the academy who could fill that role instead of spending the 35m or whatever it was buying the Danilo's of the world. Over the long run it turns into a massive competitive advantage.

 

[Great Kompany]

Totally, and not even just from a business perspective. From a competitive standpoint, for every Sancho thats, as you say, potentially £100m in spend to deploy elsewhere in the squad, because the wing is locked down. And that goes for guys like Zinchenko also. He's not a star but we took a £2m asset and now have a very serviceable squad player. Hard for me to believe that we don't have guys in the academy who could fill that role instead of spending the 35m or whatever it was buying the Danilo's of the world. Over the long run it turns into a massive competitive advantage.

Exactly. The academy players look at the first team and see no future. We have seen so many matches this season where Otamendi was rash and total calamity still no Garcia. We have seen Rodri Gundo but no Foden even on matches which we would comfortably win. Players look at that and then rethink about staying at City. We win a lot of matches by a huge margin but it is pointless to bring Foden at 85th min against Watford when we are 5-0 up. I think Foden will set the standard about how we take care of academy players. He is homegrown, a city fan and an excellent player. If he doesn't get his due at City no one will. Let see if he starts against Arsenal!

 

[domalino]

Tbh, it's also simply a failure if we're letting future £100m+ (potentially) worth class home-grown assets slip out of our hands. In a pure business sense, that's not good.

Totally, and not even just from a business perspective. From a competitive standpoint, for every Sancho thats, as you say, potentially £100m in spend to deploy elsewhere in the squad, because the wing is locked down. And that goes for guys like Zinchenko also. He's not a star but we took a £2m asset and now have a very serviceable squad player. Hard for me to believe that we don't have guys in the academy who could fill that role instead of spending the 35m or whatever it was buying the Danilo's of the world. Over the long run it turns into a massive competitive advantage.

Remember we arent just buying a player here, we are also making our squad 1 player bigger.

We have zero club trained players at the club right now. That means our squad is limited to 17 foreign players, 4 homegrown players and u21s.

If we buy Sancho, he becomes a club trained player when he turns 21 and we have one of those club trained positions filled for as long as he stays here.

Just think of all the bullshit in the transfer market in recent summers because the club needed to sell a foreign player before buying, or we wanted a position filled but they had to be the one english player good enough because we already had our 17 foreign players.

There is a very real and significant £ value to Sancho being club trained.

Thsts before I even start on the fact we have an opportunity to get a player for under the market value. If hes worth 90m or 100m or 150m to United or Liverpool or Real Madrid, we can get him for 15-20% less thanks to that sell on clause, and because of our matching clause, we cant be drawn into a bidding war.

 

[Ezzy]

I notice a few of the people preaching in here about our failure with giving our youth a chance are the same one crying at the prospect of City buying mostly teenagers this summer...

"how do you expect us to challenge with teenagers..?"
"Football Manager..."

We Keep On Preaching.

 

[g180aj]

I notice a few of the people preaching in here about our failure with giving our youth a chance are the same one crying at the prospect of City buying mostly teenagers this summer...

"how do you expect us to challenge with teenagers..?"
"Football Manager..."

We Keep On Preaching.

There is a big difference in giving a couple of kids each year a chance to buying 17 kids for our full squad!