Jadon Sancho

[Ezzy]

There is a big difference in giving a couple of kids each year a chance to buying 17 kids for our full squad!

is there an acceptable limit? for each year?

or?

 

[Sir peace frog]

people are that despearate to get our academy players in they are becoming blinkered,we aren't a 4th division team where the jump from academy to first team is small, we are probably up there with the top 5 teams in world football,every position has to be filled with world class talent,our back ups have to be on or pretty near the first team level,now to expect our academy lads to be able to slot into that set up is nearly impossible,the ones we think have a chance get kept and are given game time, sancho was offered a new contract ,he refused so we had no other option but to sell, if I'm honest i wouldn't give a fuck if an academy player never got a first team outing, i hope one would ,but at the city academy we give them a world class education into football, some will go on to be world beaters most wont, but every single one of them will have the skillset and hopefully the attitude to build a decent career.

a successful first team or 11 city academy players struggling, easy choice, people want academy players in to build an identity wtf,the only identity i want for city is a club that wants to win everything all the time,not a pretty bunch of young lads who might be good enough in two years.

 

[CWMCFC]

I notice a few of the people preaching in here about our failure with giving our youth a chance are the same one crying at the prospect of City buying mostly teenagers this summer...

"how do you expect us to challenge with teenagers..?"
"Football Manager..."

We Keep On Preaching.

I think it's less to do with the premise and more that no one actually believes what you've been peddling for the last month.

 

[g180aj]

Remember we arent just buying a player here, we are also making our squad 1 player bigger.

We have zero club trained players at the club right now. That means our squad is limited to 17 foreign players, 4 homegrown players and u21s.

If we buy Sancho, he becomes a club trained player when he turns 21 and we have one of those club trained positions filled for as long as he stays here.

Just think of all the bullshit in the transfer market in recent summers because the club needed to sell a foreign player before buying, or we wanted a position filled but they had to be the one english player good enough because we already had our 17 foreign players.

There is a very real and significant £ value to Sancho being club trained.

Thsts before I even start on the fact we have an opportunity to get a player for under the market value. If hes worth 90m or 100m or 150m to United or Liverpool or Real Madrid, we can get him for 15-20% less thanks to that sell on clause, and because of our matching clause, we cant be drawn into a bidding war.

I make it that he has been at the club for 28-29 months and he would need to be here for 36 to be club trained. His birthday is March so he would need to be signed by the end of July to be club trained or even hom grown for any English team.

 

[domalino]

I make it that he has been at the club for 28-29 months and he would need to be here for 36 to be club trained. His birthday is March so he would need to be signed by the end of July to be club trained or even hom grown for any English team.

A “club-trained player” is defined as a player who, between the age of 15 and 21, irrespective of their age or nationality, has been registered with their current club for a period, continuous or non-continuous, of three seasons or of 36 months between the ages of 15 and 21.​

Sancho would be registered in the 15/16, 16/17 and 20/21 seasons. It doesn't have to be 36 months.

 

[g180aj]

is there an acceptable limit? for each year?

or?

Transitioning a couple of youth players around senior professionals instead of a team of teenagers, I would say a big difference.

 

[g180aj]

A “club-trained player” is defined as a player who, between the age of 15 and 21, irrespective of their age or nationality, has been registered with their current club for a period, continuous or non-continuous, of three seasons or of 36 months between the ages of 15 and 21.​

Sancho would be registered in the 15/16, 16/17 and 20/21 seasons. It doesn't have to be 36 months.

He signed in the march when he turned 15 so it shouldn't be a problem as long as we can get it sorted quickly after the CAS decision.

 

[domalino]

He signed in the march when he turned 15 so it shouldn't be a problem as long as we can get it sorted quickly after the CAS decision.

It doesn't matter. He was registered in the 15/16 season from March onwards and that counts as a season, and he'll be registered next season.

Also the months extend until the end of the season you turn 21, so even if it were about the months instead of seasons, he's got until June 30th 2021 to accrue eligible months.

 

[Ezzy]

Transitioning a couple of youth players around senior professionals instead of a team of teenagers, I would say a big difference.

So 2 is the limit per year you set.

we have 5 academy players ready to "Transition around senior professionals" next season.

what do we do with the other 3? if they don't want to go on loan?

 

[Blu3m00n91]

a successful first team or 11 city academy players struggling, easy choice, people want academy players in to build an identity wtf,the only identity i want for city is a club that wants to win everything all the time,not a pretty bunch of young lads who might be good enough in two years.


No one is asking for a 1-11 of full academy players. They just want too see the ones who have promise to be given opportunities. Sancho was ready to step up and the club was actively trying to sign Alexis and Mahrez, we’ve spent about 200 million on shit defenders when we’ve got kids are better. And potentially we could spend 100+ plus on our academy player cause we’ve realised if you actually give them a chance look how good they can be. Shocking right??