Jair Bolsonaro | Loses 2022 Presidential election according to reports (p12)

As bad as USA politics are - Brazil is far worse. A right wing populist fascist is voted out in favor of a corrupt, convicted leftist - and that sparks massive riots.
 
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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
As bad as USA politics are - Brazil is far worse. A right wing populist fascist is voted out in favor of a corrupt, convicted leftist - and that sparks massive riots.
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Operation Carwash was a political witch hunt. Lula had all of his convictions annulled in 2021 and Sergio Moro who led the investigation would go onto become justice minister in Bolsanaro's government.

There is leaked evidence he went beyond his brief to collude and politically persecute Lula.

Lula's government isn't left wing, it wasn't actually left wing the first time round either.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Operation Carwash was a political witch hunt.
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Operation Carwash prosecuted corrupt individuals from both sides and unveiled one of the biggest corruption cases ever, all under the leadership of Lula's government.
For the first time, Brazil arrested influential politicians and powerful businesspeople.
Over R$25 billion (£4.1 billion) of corruption funds, which had been embezzled by corrupt individuals and companies, were recovered through plea deals.

Mr Kobayashi said:
Lula had all of his convictions annulled in 2021
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Just like the Congress, our Supreme Court is run by people who have their own interests. Lula had two processes annulled in 2019:
1. One of them was because Sergio Moro was considered "biased" based on hacked messages that indicated that Moro didn't like Lula, but there was no evidence or indication that he tampered with the judicial process in any way. Our Constitution says that illegally obtained evidence cannot be used against anyone, in any shape or form. But they did it anyway.

2. The second one was anuled because the Supreme Court found out (600 days later!) that Lula was judged in the wrong jurisdiction: "he should not be judged in Curitiba city, he should actually be judged in Brasília." The funy thing is: over a year before, the same Supreme Court judges also authorized Lula's arrest as they have not found any irregularity and actually found him guilty.

Mr Kobayashi said:
Lula's government isn't left wing, it wasn't actually left wing the first time round either.
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The other guy said Lula is a leftist and you respond like this. How did you come to such conclusion?
Lula is left wing but that's not the issue. The thing is he's one of those despicable leaders who have dangerous ideas and loves to show support to dictators.

When asked about any dictorship going in the world Lula doesn't exitate to show support to them. Unfortunately, his speech is not spread by the US-Europe media as much as they do with Bolsonaro's despicable statements.

Maduro in Venezuela, Ortega in Nicaragua, Castros in Cuba, Xi in China, Putin in Russia, Raisi in Iran. All of them have received public support from Lula.

Meanwhile, he's actively attacking the US and Europe for being "imperialist countries".
 
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babyape said:
www.theguardian.com

Brazil protests: Lula vows to punish ‘neo-fascists’ after Bolsonaro supporters storm congress

President tours scene of riot and orders federal government to take control of policing in capital Brasília as extremists refuse to accept his presidency
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Bumping this because there was an important update regarding the invasion on the 8th: Official leaked documents have revealed that the current Government was aware that an invasion would occur at the Congress and Supreme Court buildings two days before it happened, and yet they did nothing to avoid that.

The ABIN (Brazil's intelligence agency, similar to the CIA) sent a warning report to Lula's Government about the incoming attack and advising the deployment of additional personnel to protect the building, including the National Guard. The Government did the opposite: they sent a message to the local Governor saying everything was under control and no extra effort was needed.

Newly revealed documents indicate that when ABIN sent a letter to Congress after the 8th invasion, Lula's security chief (which was the Institutional Security Bureau director) ordered them to conceal the information that the Government was aware of the invasion before it occurred.
www.gazetadopovo.com.br

Ex-chefe do GSI de Lula mandou omitir alertas da Abin sobre atos de 8/1, diz jornal

Ex-chefe do GSI teria suprimido alertas feitos pela Abin em documento enviado ao Congresso sobre atos de 8/1. Leia na Gazeta do Povo.
www.gazetadopovo.com.br www.gazetadopovo.com.br

The said director resigned after a video of him (and his people) opening the doors to make it easier for the rioters has leaked (the Government had made such videos private but someone leaked it)
 
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Itd said:
Operation Carwash prosecuted corrupt individuals from both sides and unveiled one of the biggest corruption cases ever, all under the leadership of Lula's government.
For the first time, Brazil arrested influential politicians and powerful businesspeople.
Over R$25 billion (£4.1 billion) of corruption funds, which had been embezzled by corrupt individuals and companies, were recovered through plea deals.


Just like the Congress, our Supreme Court is run by people who have their own interests. Lula had two processes annulled in 2019:
1. One of them was because Sergio Moro was considered "biased" based on hacked messages that indicated that Moro didn't like Lula, but there was no evidence or indication that he tampered with the judicial process in any way. Our Constitution says that illegally obtained evidence cannot be used against anyone, in any shape of form. But they did it anyway.

2. The second one was anuled because the Supreme Court found out (600 days later!) that Lula was judged in the wrong jurisdiction: "he should not be judged in Curitiba city, he should actually be judged in Brasília." The funy thing is: over a year before, the same Supreme Court judges also authorized Lula's arrest as they have not found any irregularity and actually found him guilty.


The other guy said Lula is a leftist and you respond like this. How did you come to such conclusion?
Lula is left wing but that's not the issue. The thing is he's one of those despicable leaders who have dangerous ideas and loves to show support to dictators.
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Because they didn't have an economically left wing programme for the economy.

Itd said:
When asked about any dictorship going in the world Lula doesn't exitate to show support to them. Unfortunately, his speech is not spread by the US-Europe media as much as they do with Bolsonaro's despicable statements.

Maduro in Venezuela, Ortega in Nicaragua, Castros in Cuba, Xi in China, Putin in Russia, Raisi in Iran. All of them have received public support from Lula.

Meanwhile, he's actively attacking the US and Europe for being "imperialist countries".
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It's a global south foreign policy agenda, it's counter to Brazil's interests either, one of the main drivers of the boom in economy during the good years was selling soya to China and Brazil is heavily reliant on the PRC for imported goods and military hardware.

You do know that the Castros aren't in charge of Cuba anymore?
 
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