January transfer/its quiet Thread

[PW]

The only one who is a realistic target that is worth signing in January is Sanchez. JFE not good enough, Martinez a bit of a gamble coming in mid season from a different league and Umtiti isn't going to leave Barca. Hopefully Pep might have a few aces up his sleeve that neither the press or we have got wind of.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Can’t see Pep coming out and stating we will definitely be signing someone

We may require certain players but want to keep current harmony of the squad

 

[gomer27]

The only one who is a realistic target that is worth signing in January is Sanchez. JFE not good enough, Martinez a bit of a gamble coming in mid season from a different league and Umtiti isn't going to leave Barca. Hopefully Pep might have a few aces up his sleeve that neither the press or we have got wind of.

i dont think that is so nailed on....he must see the age of that squad and think hmmmmm messi isnt going to be playing at this level forever and neymar already left......

 

[marc_mcfc90]

I think for 15 million Ross Barkley will be a decent signing for chelsea! It could go either way but for a young English international it is worth the risk!

 

[M12Blue]

Very unhappy to read that, we can't fight on four fronts with one fit striker.

tomorrow is the future mate, we will strengthen, the chance to do the unthinkable this year will not be squandered for a few million

 

[domalino]

'Top quality' and 'World class player'. Easy to state, but his performances at Arsenal do not suggest that he would improve our squad in anything but numbers and reputation. He is 12th in league goal-scoring charts and 42nd in the assists charts. I think you are mistaken if you think it's down to attitude. I watched the Arsenal v Chelsea game last night and he ran himself into the ground, so much so that he scarcely touched the ball in the 2nd half. He had a good 1st half, and a poor 2nd.

He was world class by any definition. But players can slide quickly. And he is. Thankfully we have less than 4 weeks to see what Pep will do. Setting aside the pros and cons, the fact that we do not have an agreement in place with Arsenal suggests to me he is not going anywhere this window. Southampton did not want to sell VVD in the Summer, but Liverpool obviously worked at it over the Summer, and the deal was in place. If we had a serious intention to bring him here, I think a deal would be done, and Arsenal would have had a deal in place. Obviously still plenty of time for things to change, but the fact that this is an old target suggests to me that some people are barking up the wrong tree.

That's a loaded question. Clearly if he would significantly strengthen the squad we would try and do it. The more basic questions are would he significantly strengthen the squad, and will Arsenal sell? Both are matters of opinion. Arsenal had no intention of selling in the Summer, because they did nothing about it until the last day and once again there's no sign of an incoming Arsenal player to replace him. If you see Arsenal agreeing a deal with Mahrez or Lemar etc, then I'd say that they are preparing to sell him.

We're 20 odd points above Arsenal. Logically, at the age of 29, he should be having an absolutely amazing season for us to consider him. He isn't, therefore the enthusiasm to sign him seems misplaced to me. At bayern, Pep signed Alonso. He was an old player, but an old player in his prime whose game, passing, was not going to be affected significantly by age (Gaz Baz). The argument for signing him is restricted to a short term possibility that we may never have an opportunity to win a domestic treble again and Sanchez may help us to do that. An extra pair of legs would help now, but even so I don't think he is enough of a match-winner or an outstanding player that justifies 3 years in our squad at the expense of alternatives in our youth team, and unidentified players in the future. For me players like Maitland-Niles, Ozil, Wilshere are more important for Arsenal. He's not even the best player at Arsenal any more and yet some City fans are convinced he's a vital piece of our jigsaw?

Sorry Marvin but there's so much guesswork and inaccuracy in this post that it's awful. Reminds me of last year when you said Messi was done.


Sanchez touched the ball 28 times in the second half vs. Chelsea. More than Lacazette, Hazard, Fabregas, Morata and most of the rest of the Chelsea side.So if he barely touched it then the same applies to most of the players on the pitch - who had the ball all the time I wonder? So to say he ran himself into the ground is simply wrong.

He's not scoring or assisting as many as he did in previous seasons, but his goals have won Arsenal 7 points and his assists a further 4. Time after time he is the person who has come up with the important contributions for a bad Arsenal side. SO to say he's not a match winner or outstanding player is also wrong, he's the difference between Arsenal being 6th and about 9th.

The argument for signing him is restricted to a short term possibility that we may never have an opportunity to win a domestic treble again and Sanchez may help us to do that.

No it isn't. I don't need to outline the other reasons because dozens of posters have already done so in the last 3000 pages of the Sanchez thread.

"42nd in the assists charts"

Ooh that sounds bad, but perhaps "he's got 1 fewer assist than Raheem Sterling having the best season of his career" would be a better descriptor?

Logically, at the age of 29, he should be having an absolutely amazing season for us to consider him.

By what logic exactly? That's not logic, that's just your opinion that we should only sign 29 year olds if they're having exceptional seasons. Other people would point out that by 29 we already know he's an exceptional player, and 3 months of playing well but below his best are pretty normal considering how much he doesn't want to be where he is, and is just running down the clock.

At bayern, Pep signed Alonso. He was an old player, but an old player in his prime whose game, passing, was not going to be affected significantly by age (Gaz Baz).

Actually if you ask any Bayern fan they'll tell you that Xabi Alonso was massively affected by age and his passing game was useless because of his physical restrictions - but he was 34, not 29 so the comparison is awful anyway.

For me players like Maitland-Niles, Ozil, Wilshere are more important for Arsenal.

At this point I'm realising Tuesday's game was the only Arsenal game you watched all season...It would be easier to just say "I don't fancy him" because that's all your analysis comes down to.

 

[domalino]

I think for 15 million Ross Barkley will be a decent signing for chelsea! It could go either way but for a young English international it is worth the risk!

It's a good transfer for everyone. Barkley needed to move, Chelsea needed depth.

At his best there's a fantastic player in there, and a disciplined, tactically strict coach who drills movements on the training ground will do wonders for him.

It might not turn him into a world beater, but his career was going nowhere at Everton anyway, it seems like a small gamble with possibly big upsides for Chelsea and him.

 

[city saint]

It's a good transfer for everyone. Barkley needed to move, Chelsea needed depth.

At his best there's a fantastic player in there, and a disciplined, tactically strict coach who drills movements on the training ground will do wonders for him.

It might not turn him into a world beater, but his career was going nowhere at Everton anyway, it seems like a small gamble with possibly big upsides for Chelsea and him.

sounds like a rodwell type signing to me.he could end up a steal or an absoloute waste of a spot if he dosnt knuckle down

 

[supercity88]

Sorry Marvin but there's so much guesswork and inaccuracy in this post that it's awful. Reminds me of last year when you said Messi was done.


Sanchez touched the ball 28 times in the second half vs. Chelsea. More than Lacazette, Hazard, Fabregas, Morata and most of the rest of the Chelsea side.So if he barely touched it then the same applies to most of the players on the pitch - who had the ball all the time I wonder? So to say he ran himself into the ground is simply wrong.

He's not scoring or assisting as many as he did in previous seasons, but his goals have won Arsenal 7 points and his assists a further 4. Time after time he is the person who has come up with the important contributions for a bad Arsenal side. SO to say he's not a match winner or outstanding player is also wrong, he's the difference between Arsenal being 6th and about 9th.




No it isn't. I don't need to outline the other reasons because dozens of posters have already done so in the last 3000 pages of the Sanchez thread.



Ooh that sounds bad, but perhaps "he's got 1 fewer assist than Raheem Sterling having the best season of his career" would be a better descriptor?



By what logic exactly? That's not logic, that's just your opinion that we should only sign 29 year olds if they're having exceptional seasons. Other people would point out that by 29 we already know he's an exceptional player, and 3 months of playing well but below his best are pretty normal considering how much he doesn't want to be where he is, and is just running down the clock.





Actually if you ask any Bayern fan they'll tell you that Xabi Alonso was massively affected by age and his passing game was useless because of his physical restrictions - but he was 34, not 29 so the comparison is awful anyway.




At this point I'm realising Tuesday's game was the only Arsenal game you watched all season...It would be easier to just say "I don't fancy him" because that's all your analysis comes down to.

*Drops microphone and walks off stage

 

[Sir peace frog]

*Drops microphone and walks off stage

once domalino gets his teeth into something hes like a dog with a bone :)