Jess Phillips

So you’re a working class hero with a massive chip on your shoulder, then.

I don’t know much about this woman, or particularly care. What I do know is that she should be judged on what she says, not how she says it. And what she said in Parliament was bang on the money to anybody with any kind of moral compass.

Why anybody would attack her for standing up for ordinary people is beyond me, whatever her background or whatever fucking accent she has. Pathetic.

Absolutely fine. As is your right.

I just prefer my heroines to be a little less patronising, a lot less hypocrical, and a whole lot more honest.

But each to their own .
 
Know a guy from Wolverhampton and another from West Brom who’ve gone the other way. Two of the poshest sounding and looking blokes I know, but could and possibly should have ended up speaking and projecting themselves very differently. I’d be surprised if there was a society on earth more conscious of social class than this country.

I suspect there's a few like that on here mate.
 
Absolutely fine. As is your right.

I just prefer my heroines to be a little less patronising, a lot less hypocrical, and a whole lot more honest.

But each to their own .
You feeling “patronised” is that giant chip whispering in your ear.
 
So you’re a working class hero with a massive chip on your shoulder, then.

I don’t know much about this woman, or particularly care. What I do know is that she should be judged on what she says, not how she says it. And what she said in Parliament was bang on the money to anybody with any kind of moral compass.

Why anybody would attack her for standing up for ordinary people is beyond me, whatever her background or whatever fucking accent she has. Pathetic.
Some people’s accents change. It’s hardly the crime if the century ffs! The way people talk changes for all sorts of reasons. I often find I become more ‘northern’ in the company of posh people. Only realised I was doing it fairly recently, but I have, for years. Don’t even know the reason why. Nothing wrong with adapting to your surroundings or feeling comfortable in your own skin. If that’s the way she wants to talk, then let her.
 
Some people’s accents change. It’s hardly the crime if the century ffs! The way people talk changes for all sorts of reasons. I often find I become more ‘northern’ in the company of posh people. Only realised I was doing it fairly recently, but I have, for years. Don’t even know the reason why. Nothing wrong with adapting to your surroundings or feeling comfortable in your own skin. If that’s the way she wants to talk, then let her.

Everyone does it.

My wife takes the piss out of me because when I’m making a work call I pronounce the ‘g’ on the end of words, like going or taking.

I don’t even know I’m doing it.

I’ve noticed Noel Gallagher doing the same, and, connecting to our Hacienda chat earlier, I got a bit of a shock talkin(g) to Mike Pickerin(g) the other week. He’s gone a bit refined now.

In my mind my accent hasn’t changed one bit but if I listen to Videos or Tapes of me when I was a kid my accent has subtly softened. But with my mates from home I bet it comes back.

Who gives a shit, unless you’re a class warrior?
 
Everyone does it.

My wife takes the piss out of me because when I’m making a work call I pronounce the ‘g’ on the end of words, like going or taking.

I don’t even know I’m doing it.

I’ve noticed Noel Gallagher doing the same, and, connecting to our Hacienda chat earlier, I got a bit of a shock talkin(g) to Mike Pickerin(g) the other week. He’s gone a bit refined now.

In my mind my accent hasn’t changed one bit but if I listen to Videos or Tapes of me when I was a kid my accent has subtly softened. But with my mates from home I bet it comes back.

Who gives a shit, unless you’re a class warrior?
Yeah, I’ve got very little Mancunian left in my accent because I’ve moved around so much, as much as anything. I’m discernibly northern, with a bit of East Midlands thrown in, but neither being overwhelming. My accent being fairly neutral otherwise, I reckon. Certainly not posh. Anyone who describes the way I speak as posh is a fucking idiot!

I was privately educated, but my dad is from Hulme and Moss Side and still speaks accordingly - and used to pay for the foregoing private education in cash! Of course I’ve got a weird accent. I’m socially conflicted!
 
Some people’s accents change. It’s hardly the crime if the century ffs! The way people talk changes for all sorts of reasons. I often find I become more ‘northern’ in the company of posh people. Only realised I was doing it fairly recently, but I have, for years. Don’t even know the reason why. Nothing wrong with adapting to your surroundings or feeling comfortable in your own skin. If that’s the way she wants to talk, then let her.

Location can make things odd too. Being from the countryside outside of Stockport some days I unintentionally sound more Mancunian, some days I sound like I’ve got the dullest and most generic accent ever and some days I sound a little posh compared to colleagues who are actually Manc.

The Wiganer at work says I’ve the dullest accent he’s ever heard - a sort of generic mixture of the north and midlands - more soft Northern if anything, but the girl who’s moved up from a rich/posh part of Essex says I sound like Liam Gallagher to her.

Because I’m from a bit of an in between place one person in the town can sound different to the next, doesn’t help that they’re all odd balls there.

Accents do change and my changes depending on the company I’m with or have spent a lot of time with... or generally the strength of my throat that day.

None of it is ever intentional and I’m usually pretty horrified whatever way people describe my accent.
 
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Location can make things odd too. Being from the countryside outside of Stockport some days I unintentionally sound more Mancunian, some days I sound like I’ve got the dullest and most generic accent ever and some days I sound a little posh compared to colleagues who are actually Manc.

The Wiganer at work says I’ve the dullest accent he’s ever head - a sort of generic mixture of the north and midlands - more soft Northern if anything, but the girl who’s moved up from a rich/posh part of Essex says I sound like Liam Gallagher to her.

Because I’m from a bit of an in between place one person in the town can sound different to the next, doesn’t help that they’re all odd balls there.

Accents do change and my changes depending on the company I’m with or have spent a lot of time with... or generally the strength of my throat that day.

None of it is ever intentional and I’m usually pretty horrified whatever way people describe my accent.
My last serious girlfriend was from Lanarkshire (which is a stronger accent than Glaswegian) and all her mates from up there used to say she spoke all posh since she’d moved to England. There was fuck all posh about the way she spoke, mate. Her accent was pretty hardcore, but I loved it - however I’m sure it had receded. It must have done to some extent.
 

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