It was a talent production line and a half even back then, nice on a podcast to hear the guest speak and not make it all about the host. And you can tell Jim was very proud of Joeys career after taking a chance on him as a youngsterWhat a class act Jim Cassell is. Phil and Cole Palmer brought into the Academy when he was still running things and he only briefly mentions it.
Him and Chappy seem to be coverts from the darksideHaving met Jim in Rammy a couple of times, I can say he is a true gent and despite the way he left City, he has no axe to grind and like his good lady wife, they are both big Blues, even though he himself used to be a Rag when he was growing up!