Jimmy Carr

[urban genie]

The whole point of Hardtalk is take the (Devil's advocate) hardline against the subject of the interview.

It’s not that they don’t get it, they have to raise things like "context is irrelevant" to explore the issues fully. Context is irrelevant is something often said without the person claiming that fully articulating why they think that.

I have watched hard talk many a time, yes it asks the difficult and hard hitting questions, but for me that clip was not that, she was attributing a very british cultural thinking to both south african and american cultures , her lenny henry point missed the mark as he explaoned in vain

Being hard hitting is one thing, but in his explanation of his parents and the language he used context is necessary, her dismissing it to labour a mute point wasn't hard hitting journaism it was bobbins tbf.

 

[cookster]

Jimmy Carr's special came out 2 months ago. If it takes this long for your controversial routine to hit the news, people aren't watching the special, it's not doing well.

Dave Chappelle goes on an anti-trans monologue on his latest Netflix special and it was headline news the day it was released. Netflix's CEO is having to answer questions about if he's resigning and staff are walking out.

Everyone pretending this is some sort of genius marketing campaign or great advertising couldn't be more wrong, it's confirmation no one is watching the special.

Jimmy Carr had the most streamed stand-up special of 2021 - British Comedy Guide

Jimmy Carr had the most-streamed UK stand-up special in this country last year. The top 10 also featured Russell Howard, James Acaster, Ricky Gervais and Michael McIntyre.

www.comedy.co.uk

 

[Stuuuuuu]

I've always been amused by Viz's vitriol towards Jimmy Carr but does anyone know exactly why they had it in for him?

 

[urban genie]

Yep. All the lefties, luvvies and Liberals quite rightly slated her and her attempts at censorship. God only knows how we've got the stage where the lefties the luvvies and the Liberals are all now trying to cancel anything that offends them.

Someone will be along in a minute to mention Hitler.

I am a leftie as are nearly all my friends and family, I find no offence on his show as ot is expected, and I doubt many lefties do.

You are mistaking the social media cranks and there are thousands of them for an actual political standpoint, these clowns are angry at everything even old socialsts like me

 

[blueinsa]

I am a leftie as are nearly all my friends and family, I find no offence on his show as ot is expected, and I doubt many lefties do.

You are mistaking the social media cranks and there are thousands of them for an actual political standpoint, these clowns are angry at everything even old socialsts like me

Nailed it with social media cranks.

 

[Phil1]

I don't mind Carr, he's always seemed OK when I've stumbled across a programme he's on. I won't be watching his show though and I've no idea if the jokes that seem to have offended are funny or not and don't really care one way or another.
I've always thought that as a stand up no subject should be off limits. It's up to the audience to vote with their feet if they don't approve, not woman and moan to anyone who will listen that they find it offensive.
Just go and find a comic you prefer and listen to them, it's hardly rocket science.

 

[BobKowalski]

Yep. All the lefties, luvvies and Liberals quite rightly slated her and her attempts at censorship. God only knows how we've got the stage where the lefties the luvvies and the Liberals are all now trying to cancel anything that offends them.

Someone will be along in a minute to mention Hitler.

Not sure Nadine Dorries is a lefty or a luvvie...

 

[domalino]

Jimmy Carr had the most streamed stand-up special of 2021 - British Comedy Guide

Jimmy Carr had the most-streamed UK stand-up special in this country last year. The top 10 also featured Russell Howard, James Acaster, Ricky Gervais and Michael McIntyre.

www.comedy.co.uk

Yeah, those are not good numbers. The obvious clue is that there's only 3 stand ups released in 2021.


Lets have some context, the most watched show on Netflix in December had 466 million viewers.

Even the article you posted shows Carr only got 800,000 more views in 2021 than James Acaster's 3 year old special.

World War II in colour was watched 12 million times in the week Carr's special was released.

The last episode of WILTY got 4 million viewers on TV.

Dave Chappelle's controversial special got 15 million views in its first week.

 

[BobKowalski]

I don't mind Carr, he's always seemed OK when I've stumbled across a programme he's on. I won't be watching his show though and I've no idea if the jokes that seem to have offended are funny or not and don't really care one way or another.
I've always thought that as a stand up no subject should be off limits. It's up to the audience to vote with their feet if they don't approve, not woman and moan to anyone who will listen that they find it offensive.
Just go and find a comic you prefer and listen to them, it's hardly rocket science.

I like Carr.

But why are people are not allowed to woman about something Carr says?

I liked Daniel Tosh back in the day - still find some of his old routines funny, but when he did the ‘wouldn't it be funny if you were gang raped later’ to a female heckler he got a lot of grief, mainly because he made it personal and it wasn’t funny.

Jimmy wasn’t funny here either. Might as well have said ‘I hate gyppos’ and he would have got a big cheer because pretty much everyone does, which is the point I think some people are making.

I also think it’s okay to have a discussion about it. Except we’re not really having a discussion about what Carr said, we are having more of a discussion about the reaction to what he said and whether people should, or have the right, to react or alternatively keep quiet. And isn’t pushing people to keep quiet a form of ‘cancel culture’?

 

[Phil1]

I like Carr.

But why are people are not allowed to woman about something Carr says?

I liked Daniel Tosh back in the day - still find some of his old routines funny, but when he did the ‘wouldn't it be funny if you were gang raped later’ to a female heckler he got a lot of grief, mainly because he made it personal and it wasn’t funny.

Jimmy wasn’t funny here either. Might as well have said ‘I hate gyppos’ and he would have got a big cheer because pretty much everyone does, which is the point I think some people are making.

I also think it’s okay to have a discussion about it. Except we’re not really having a discussion about what Carr said, we are having more of a discussion about the reaction to what he said and whether people should, or have the right, to react or alternatively keep quiet. And isn’t pushing people to keep quiet a form of ‘cancel culture’?

People can do what they like, mate. I'm giving my view of the subject, it's up to each individual to choose how they react.