Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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It's not about Willy being better then Hart it's about commitment. I don't know if it was Xavi or someone else, but they said it isn't about making mistakes or not getting things right, but its about working hard in regards to Pep. Costa at BM was really inconsistent with his crosses as well as when he was in front of goal, but yet he was one of the first players on Pep starting XI, because he showed commitment and willingness to keep going.

Why in the world do I have to wait for mods for my post to be posted.
 
Aye?? Groupies? My god, if you believe someone is on here for a popularity contest then you're sadly mistaken (Gordan aside)...

So I'm to change my opinion based on becoming a pariah?

It's an opinion, shared with two previous managers and the current incumbent, does it make us right? Not at all, but I'm entitled to my opinion, as are you... Diabolical would be me saying he's shite, he's not, clearly... However, he is flawed and it's beginning to be exposed by coaches!!
Time for a new name? Pariah not messiah?
 
Karen has a thing for our Joe I think.



Defence won that when you look at his actual stats he was never the best in the league.
He was one game off the golden glove last year, was it our defence that got him there? Was it our defence that had Messi calling him a phenomenon?
Joe may well have issues, clearly the manager agrees and is trying to get shut, or (and I'm clutching big time here) he's trying to knock him down a peg to build him back up in his style, but please don't be stubborn or bandwagon'in enough to ignore how great he's been for us.
 
I suppose when you look at it like this it doesn't seem so hard to take:

I feel a bit underwhelmed by Bravo coming in to replace Joe, but I trust that Pep knows what he's doing
 
Pep on Joe Hart: "He's a big pro, both on and off the pitch."

Not getting involved in the argument here but he would hardly say he is a trouble causing fucker if we do want rid.

Much like his comments post Sunderland that went way overboard on certain players and the performance in general, what gets said publicly and privately will be chalk and cheese karen.
 
some people on here happy he is off and acting as if its good riddance....he is a class act. The fact He doesn't play Pep's way + with horrid euros with it being so recent in people's minds that it is attributing to their opinion.

It's pretty certain he is leaving , but at least don't insult others intelligence that he is shit.
 
i don't know if Joe has somehow refused or or spat his dummy out not. It appeared that way, but I don't know. But if he has, Is sorting it out 'in the dressing room', the way you would imagine Clough or Shankley or Revie or Ferguson or Mourinho or even Mancini would react to open disobedience from a player ?

Because if you do, I recon you are completely wrong. His feet wouldn't touch the floor. So why would Pep accept it ? If there has been any kind of incident, then Joe is fortunate to get a sub's job.

Mancini? Yeah sure :D
 
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