Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[goalmole]

Genuine question, do you feel the same of the likes of Summerbee etc?

Genuine answer. I never emotionally attach myself to personalities, nor would I ever be in awe of them. What matters to me is the story of the club, where it has come from where it is going how it gets there. The lows, the highs, the frustration, the joy. That is my reason for following City. However I would say that if I felt that a person was exclusively committed to City, as a fan would be, then I would probably be giving of a greater respect than others that have just passed through and made us just another notch in their careers.

 

[Kezinstep]

Nope. Starts with the GK. If we don't have a sweeper that is calm and confident on the ball the defensive line cannot be moved 20 yards etc. Every position is important and it's even more important to get players that suit the system unfortunately Joe doesn't.
3 months ago I wouldn't have swapped him for any keeper out there but now it's blindingly obvious why he needs replacing

 

[aguero93:20]

This is about the tenth time I've said this, not to you, obviously, but leaving anything external of play out of this, the level of distribution is shoddy and invariably invites pressure back on to his back line, as he gives possesion away cheaply... That will reduce in a possesion based system, something (imo) hart won't we able to cope with.... If you're discounting the 'bad apple' scenario as well, what do you believe are peps motives?? Shits and giggles

I don't know what his motives are, he's hardly immune from making mistakes and clearing our entire spine out in one window will be one. GK is not a position we should be wasting time, effort ad resources on changing, we have a homegrown keeper who's consistently been one of the best in the league and at the club for the last 6 seasons, who's turned in stellar performances against every big side we've played in Europe and who's seemingly not being given a chance to prove his worth by the new coach. I haven't forgotten Caballero being rated higher in Spain than Bravo and better than Hart by many until he got here and people realised the grass was nowhere near greener on the other side and that he wasn't a fucking patch on Hart.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I think Otamendi has far more ability if he can cut out his impetuous moments.

Completely agree, mate.

 

[Danny_Johnson4]

All this talk of kicking, what's Bravo's actual goalkeeping ability like?

fucking good. ask Kun

 

[hcblue95]

I don't know what his motives are, he's hardly immune from making mistakes and clearing our entire spine out in one window will be one. GK is not a position we should be wasting time, effort ad resources on changing, we have a homegrown keeper who's consistently been one of the best in the league and at the club for the last 6 seasons, who's turned in stellar performances against every big side we've played in Europe and who's seemingly not being given a chance to prove his worth by the new coach. I haven't forgotten Caballero being rated higher in Spain than Bravo and better than Hart by many until he got here and people realised the grass was nowhere near greener on the other side and that he wasn't a fucking patch on Hart.

Agree with everything you've said here.

 

[worsleyweb]

Completely agree, mate.

We need to tie some sort of electric devise to Otta. My mate tells me you can buy them in Sex shops. Every time he falls on his arse - pep can give him an electric shock to his balls.

 

[The Northern Baptist]

Not as good as Joe's.

Joe is a better shot stopper, as long as you don't shoot to his left.....

 

[FanchesterCity]

And that is why he's buying in the likes of Stones.

I agree, I'm just making the point that whilst the likes of Neuer look wonderful, it really does help when you have Bayern's back line. Things could be a bit more hairy for Neuer if he were being closed down rapidly and he's passing it to a nervy Clichy or Kolarov, or for that matter Otamendi / Mangala / Kompany.

Someone will raise their eyebrows at me mentioning Kompany there, but we've not seen him playing this style of football either, and whilst he's clearly been our most composed defender for years, we've still been found wanting when pressured by the best. And of course, he has an uncertain future thanks to his injuries.

To my mind, if Stones does well early on, it will only accelerate Kompany's departure from the team (hopefully not the club) or at least he'll be backup to Stones. I could be completely wrong though, and he might see Kompany at rCB and Stones playing lCB, leaving Otamendi / Mangler playing second fiddle.

 

[Alex B]

Still scratching my head at all this. Puts abit of a dampener on everything good that has happened previous. Is the riot on or what?!