Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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It's one of those hypothectical arguments that footie fans have had since Adam was a lad.

Yep, I have a friend who would swear on his mother's grave (were she dead) that international football is as good as it gets. For me, the best argument is to think about how much training a club team does together, and how many matches they play together vs a few weeks a year of international training and like 5 matches per year.
 
Yep, I have a friend who would swear on his mother's grave (were she dead) that international football is as good as it gets. For me, the best argument is to think about how much training a club team does together, and how many matches they play together vs a few weeks a year of international training and like 5 matches per year.

I agree Real Madrid is the best team on the planet followed closely by Barca. Both those teams would beat any International team at the moment.

But as I said it's all hypothectical.

Could Real beat wales without Bale.

Barca beat Argentina without Messi.

Real beat Portugal without the twat that used to play for the scumbags from Trafford Park.
 
Watching Hart's distribution tonight, and something tells me that Hart won't be the #1 Gk under Pep for that long........
Unless it really improves under Pep.

This kind of nonsense does my head in mate, sorry. The ability to drive 50 yard pinpoint clearances straight to a winger stood on the touchline (with virtually zero margin for error) like Glenn Hoddle in his pomp, is about 49th on a list of the 50 most important things I look for in a goalkeeper. Bar the volley that hit Smalling up the arse, which ironically occurred when Joe was seeking to move the ball on quickly like his detractors on here are forever demanding, there was nothing particularly wrong with his distribution last night at all
 
This kind of nonsense does my head in mate, sorry. The ability to drive 50 yard pinpoint clearances straight to a winger stood on the touchline (with virtually zero margin for error) like Glenn Hoddle in his pomp, is about 49th on a list of the 50 most important things I look for in a goalkeeper. Bar the volley that hit Smalling up the arse, which ironically occurred when Joe was seeking to move the ball on quickly like his detractors on here are forever demanding, there was nothing particularly wrong with his distribution last night at all
I agree about distribution being largely unimportant but only if they avoid it and let someone better do it. Same as Dunne's hoofs years ago.

Is it their egos that couldn't take having a defender take over once the ball is under control?

This ink is one of those simple things that has driven me crazy for a very long time. Since before I was born in fact.
 
Hart,s distribution will improve 10 fold once Lapoerte and Stones are playing in front of him
Yes it will, though I don't think it's nearly as bad as some make out. Sometime he ends up kicking it after looking to play out shorter, because his defenders aren't drilled in receiving the ball or know what they are going to do with it except give it back to him then he kicks it. This will change not just with the players in front of him but because they will be drilled in in it until they see it in their sleep.
 
How involved would Pep get with the coaching of a goalkeeper? He wasn't a keeper, so surely the majority of the work is left to the goalkeeper coach? And Khaldoon said the other day that we're keeping the same coach. So I don't see Hart's game changing under Pep as much as the outfield players'. Love Joe though, I hope he stays forever.
 
How involved would Pep get with the coaching of a goalkeeper? He wasn't a keeper, so surely the majority of the work is left to the goalkeeper coach? And Khaldoon said the other day that we're keeping the same coach. So I don't see Hart's game changing under Pep as much as the outfield players'. Love Joe though, I hope he stays forever.
The goalkeeping coach will do the goalkeeping stuff, but I would expect Joe to be expected to take part in more drills involving passing and working with the defenders and the deeper midfielders, which Pep and his coaches would oversee. That just my thoughts though, from reading about Pep, not from any great knowledge.
 
The goalkeeping coach will do the goalkeeping stuff, but I would expect Joe to be expected to take part in more drills involving passing and working with the defenders and the deeper midfielders, which Pep and his coaches would oversee. That just my thoughts though, from reading about Pep, not from any great knowledge.
Have often wondered if a few sessions with a rugby dead ball kicker coach may help,with things like body shape,kicking action etc
 
No chance pep will be able to play the goalie as a sweeper in prem, joe is joe and I wouldn't swap him for anyone
 
Very poor. Why he was so far over to his right side is beyond me.some one
needs to wipe that bloody smile off his face.
 
Every time...... how many times does Joe Hart get beat on his left hand side for us? His positional awareness during set pieces is fucking terrible, he shouldn't be that far on his right side during a free kick which is almost central.
 
Wouldn't expect him to make that sort of mistake.
I think it came on a bit quicker than he expected.
It started very low, it only just cleared the wall, and then it picked up speed as it dipped.
Would still expect him to lap that up though. I don't remember him ever making shot stopping errors for City though?
 
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