Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[MeatHunterrr]

Ter Stegen links appeared in March.. so the decision to replace Hart has definitely been taken months ago.

 

[mosssideblue]

I know Joe Hart is a fine keeper an opinion shared by many experts in the game. I watch him every week and the thread is about him is it not? So to those of you out there with greater knowledge of the other keeper do you think he is better than Hart and worth spending 18 million on at the age of 33?

I think where your struggling is that Joe is indeed a fine keeper in the traditional sense. We are moving direction and now need a fine keeper+. Joe will always be a fine keeper. We are buying the + that Joe hasn,t got in his locker

 

[bumbleblue]

Ideally a swift resolution is what is required or this has the capacity to drag on and destabilise things. However I fear press briefings and as we know anything to get at city in the media ...

 

[paulchapo]

Just listened to Ian Cheeseman on the excellent American Cityzens podcast. He was being very diplomatic but had clearly heard something. He made it clear though that (a) it was a personal rather than a football issue and (b) he was out and there was no way back.

That just reinforces my belief that something has happened prior to Pep coming that crossed a line, that a decision was taken some time ago and Pep's arrival represents an opportunity to execute that decision.

Now this makes more sense and it will probably come out in the wash.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I know Joe Hart is a fine keeper an opinion shared by many experts in the game. I watch him every week and the thread is about him is it not? So to those of you out there with greater knowledge of the other keeper do you think he is better than Hart and worth spending 18 million on at the age of 33?

It doesn't matter what any of us fans think on the matter, Pep wants Claudio Bravo, despite being 33 years old, because he believes that he will play in his system better than Joe can.

 

[marco]

I know Joe Hart is a fine keeper an opinion shared by many experts in the game. I watch him every week and the thread is about him is it not? So to those of you out there with greater knowledge of the other keeper do you think he is better than Hart and worth spending 18 million on at the age of 33?

he's worth every penny of his price tag, we will get a good return on JH probably around 20 million so we are 2 million in the bank and have a keeper that's 33, don't forget Edwin Van Der Sar was 41 when he departed the swamp so his age is not really an issue at the moment, he's a better keeper than JH with a better footballing brain

 

[Akiva]

I know Joe Hart is a fine keeper an opinion shared by many experts in the game. I watch him every week and the thread is about him is it not? So to those of you out there with greater knowledge of the other keeper do you think he is better than Hart and worth spending 18 million on at the age of 33?

Yes to all of the above, he's world class and right now a consensus top 5 keeper in the game.

All that is irrelevant though. What matters is what Pep thinks and who he wants for his team.

 

[mosssideblue]

Why has there always got to be drama,probably heard a rumour like everyone else

You must though see Karen that there could be something in as you just dont bin the national keeper

 

[blueplan]

Consider this scenario;

• Stones make a lagging back pass, under pressure, to his GK, who is open and ready for a return pass, rushes forward to accept it from being intercepted. In this case the GK had Stone's back and is a good teammate.
• Juxtaposed this with Joe making a 'suicide pass' to his teammate and 'turns his back' and recedes to his goalmouth. The teammate under pressure, assume that he has his back covered by his GK, makes a return pass which apparently is a 'lagging pass' and is intercepted by an opponent and is scored upon. Of course when Joe rushed forward, because of the gap or distance created, he failed and was scored upon.
• Did his vaunted one on one or shot stopping prevented it?
• That teammate happened to be MDM and was hang out to dry. Watch those replays/videos if you are conflicted.

Question is which GK is a better or good teammate? We have no problem with Joe, or his proponents, thinking that he is head and shoulder above the rest of his teammates but does that 'not my fault' attitude dovetails with our Club Management and Pep's VISION of a Great team ala Barca?

"A manager who puts the team and the club first"

As I posted in another thread ,in Pep's programme notes for the Sunderland game he said " I want each of my players to be a good teammate-this is the most important quality. I like a player who thinks about himself but also about the group and Manchester City. We are all working here to make this club better. I don't like the guys to think about what the club can do for them ". If Pep considers that Joe isn't a good teammate ( and who are we to judge, we don't know what goes on behind the scenes) he is out, irrespective of what other explanation is given to the press.
Joe has form in publicly criticising his teammates so we can only guess on what is said privately !
A manager who puts the team and the club first.... now there's a novelty!
CTID

Thank you for the above post reminding us. Yes I hope that's what each and everyone of us fans should too.

 

[deano ou812]

Just listened to Ian Cheeseman on the excellent American Cityzens podcast. He was being very diplomatic but had clearly heard something. He made it clear though that (a) it was a personal rather than a football issue and (b) he was out and there was no way back.

That just reinforces my belief that something has happened prior to Pep coming that crossed a line, that a decision was taken some time ago and Pep's arrival represents an opportunity to execute that decision.

Something has happened regarding hart before pep arrived,and now with pep coming in they have taken the opportunity to now off load him is that what you are suggesting PB,must have been something pretty serious if am reading your post correctly..