Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[Metalartin]

So you accept the words of barca experts but not our own ex barca expert? Good logic

Pep hasn't said any of the shite about not being a top class shot stopper(goal keeper in the traditional sense) though has he, there have been no rumors that he has said anything to that effect either have there? This is going in circles.

 

[CityFan94]

I think Everton is probably Hart's level now, which I'm sad to say because he seems like a top bloke and genuinely loves the club.

Low shots to Hart's left is a HUGE weakness in his game and teams are clearly exploiting it. I've lost count of how many times I've seen him concede a soft goal low to his left.

Hart is pretty poor with his feet too, certainly nowhere the top goalkeepers when it comes to distribution. Just look at the stats comparing Hart and Neuer in that area. Hart just seems to panic and boot it as far away as possible - I'm not sure that's something that could be coached?

It looks inevitable that Hart will leave this summer and he'll leave with every blue's best wishes and gratitude, but it's the correct decision. Pep is ruthless.

 

[hilts]

You think about what I'm saying though you think you have a direct link to Pep's thinking, he's validated all your personal criticisms of Hart, you hilts of bluemoon! ;) Well *scoffs* I think you are making a little too many assumptions about the real reasons for Pep's decision to omit Hart but that's just me.

Didn't respond to any of my points because the simple reality is you can't, I don't know for sure the reasons why pep has dropped hart, neither do you, at this time I trust his judgement more than a few hysterical city fans, it's called logic based on history

 

[Metalartin]

Didn't respond to any of my points because the simple reality is you can't, I don't know for sure the reasons why pep has dropped hart, neither do you, at this time I trust his judgement more than a few hysterical city fans, it's called logic based on history

Deluded Hart naysayer thinking his opinions have now been validated. I've no problems with the decision it's this tendency certain people have to make far too much of very little and somehow inflate their own egos with it. "Me and Pep think this" no that's not at all how it is but you keep dreaming.

Also you've failed to respond to this because you can't.

Pep hasn't said any of the shite about not being a top class shot stopper(goal keeper in the traditional sense) though has he, there have been no rumors that he has said anything to that effect either have there? This is going in circles.

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

Players come and players go. It happens to all so why is this an issue? As England's regular keeper, he will have no problem in finding another club. His remuneration will not be as high as it is now but it will still be high. And maybe this is the real issue. There is in my mind no problem in anyone having a high salary providing performances reflect this, but for an estimated £120k per week a keeper should be as good with his feet as he should be with his hands.

 

[ShaunMCFC]

I'm not pretending anything - I've had doubts about Joe for a few seasons now, the fact that Pep may or may not rate him is inconsequential.
Fighting for his place may be a good thing although it's unlikely that will happen now. I genuinely think being England's No1 has affected him adversely as his game seem to be a protectionist approach which conversely leads to errors.

This.

I agee with the England comment, almost sometimes taking the easy option/pass to not get caught up in anything that might be that little bit risky.

 

[hilts]

Pep hasn't said any of the shite about not being a top class shot stopper(goal keeper in the traditional sense) though has he, there have been no rumors that he has said anything to that effect either have there? This is going in circles.

You don't help yourself mate, top class shot stopper class. You're right he hasn't just stood up in public and said ah yes Joe hart he is not a very good shot stopper. He also hasn't said he can't make an omelette so you are presuming pep thinks he's a Michelin starred chef. Managers tend not to slate players in public as it doesn't make any sense, you do know this right? He isn't playing him that's the only fact we know.

Correct use of the word fact there by the way

 

[Don Karleone]

I think Everton is probably Hart's level now

 

[hilts]

Deluded Hart naysayer thinking his opinions have now been validated. I've no problems with the decision it's this tendency certain people have to make far too much of very little and somehow inflate their own egos with it. "Me and Pep think this" no that's not at all how it is but you keep dreaming.

Also you've failed to respond to this because you can't.

I have

 

[Metalartin]

You don't help yourself mate, top class shot stopper class. You're right he hasn't just stood up in public and said ah yes Joe hart he is not a very good shot stopper. He also hasn't said he can't make an omelette so you are presuming pep thinks he's a Michelin starred chef. Managers tend not to slate players in public as it doesn't make any sense, you do know this right? He isn't playing him that's the only fact we know.

Correct use of the word fact there by the way

You don't really have much of a point to make then do you? In fact all of what you said is EXACTLY how I've told you it was, you pretending a decision made validates your personal opinions on Hart to the letter. Well finally I've got through to you, funny how the biggest loons are the ones saying everyone else is being hysterical. :)