Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[CitizenTID]

Pep won't let him stay unless this thread reaches 1000 pages by Wednesday

 

[stan bowles]

Perhaps that shows the respect they each have within the club ? Doing their best to help Hart, whilst telling the others to sort themselves out, or have a season without much football.

If that's the case then fine but if Hart says he doesn't want to leave in this window the club should respect that and not hang him out to dry.

 

[kaz7]

To be fair he's had since Feb (at least) to either get his game to Pep's level, or find a new club.

I don't agree,he was perfectly within his rights to stay and fight for his place under pep and i'm sure he backed himself against willy and he has 3yrs left on his contract,the last couple of weeks he has been dropped to 3rd and now finds he has to go with no time to get a decent move,why should he go to the likes of sunderland when he is way above that level?,he will end up staying till jan and be a big distraction imo

 

[CitizenTID]

Agreed, there almost seems to be a desperation on City's part to get rid of Hart. I'm guessing they think Hart won't be a good influence on the squad if he's not playing. I'm sorry Hart is going, but accept that we just have to let Pep do things his way and his lack of sentiment for players and objective take on things will drive us forward.

Still think Hart should play tomorrow though, Caballero has looked extremely uncomfortable playing the ball out from the back. Guess it's a case of Hart not being in the long term plans so giving Caballero game time as he will be staying.

On a separate point if Hart goes to Sunderland I'll be gutted for him. He's unlucky that the better teams in the league already have established first choice goalkeepers.

Surely Pep doesn't rate Willy over Hart in any aspect though so why isn't Willy up for sale? Gotta be more to it than just Hart's game

 

[goalmole]

But Willy Caballero is? Think you made a Clarkie there.

Not really, because Caballero doesn't rotate with Bravo.

 

[stan bowles]

To be fair he's had since Feb (at least) to either get his game to Pep's level, or find a new club.

You assume Pep or the club told him in Feb he wasn't good enough and wouldn't be starting this season? Yeah right.

 

[moenchengladbach blau]

But to say to Hart we'll be happy if you're anywhere but here... what will that do to morale and also will it make potential future signings think twice about joining?

Just wondering that myself. It is a strange way to treat a long serving employee.

Having glanced at the backpage headlines in the supermarket it all seems a very rum do indeed.

I wonder what Kompany and Silva are thinking right now?

 

[stan bowles]

I don't agree,he was perfectly within his rights to stay and fight for his place under pep and i'm sure he backed himself against willy and he has 3yrs left on his contract,the last couple of weeks he has been dropped to 3rd and now finds he has to go with no time to get a decent move,why should he go to the likes of sunderland when he is way above that level?,he will end up staying till jan and be a big distraction imo

100% agree.

 

[cleavers]

I don't agree,he was perfectly within his rights to stay and fight for his place under pep and i'm sure he backed himself against willy and he has 3yrs left on his contract

He still had the chance to improve his game towards Pep wants, since Feb. He didn't, and when selected for a game chose his own way, stranger that he then did it Pep's way on Wednesday night. I don't think that is all there is to it anyway, but he's known Pep has been coming long enough, and what Pep's game relies on, and lets face it, his biggest fault is the one thing Pep relies on.

 

[cleavers]

ou assume Pep or the club told him in Feb he wasn't good enough and wouldn't be starting this season?

No I "assume" he has a brain in his head to do something about his biggest weakness.