Joe Royle or Kevin Keegan

It was my understanding that keegan was as much pushed as walked, as I recall he'd already said he would leave at the end of his contract, the end of that season but the board were moaning that they couldn't do any transfer business with his time running out and wanted him to go. To be fair I do think he'd had enough and didn't take any persuading.

In hindsight with the shite pearce brought in keegan should have stayed on till the end of his contract!

As for the mills and thatcher debacle, it looked like he'd started listening to the press that were telling him you couldn't just go gung ho all the time and need to buy more strength at the back.... Should have bought a couple more forwards for me...
 
I think Joe just shades it for me.

He brought us back from our darkest hour and made some inspired, bargain basement signings, The Goat for £400k and Jock Morrison for £60k, or whatever ridiculously small amount it was, are two prime examples of this.

As already stated, KK wasted too much money on has-beens and never-wases, including Fowler, Mackem, Reyna and - worst of all - Vuoso. We missed out on signing Daniel van Buyten on a permanent deal because of KK's wastefulness. And see what a career he's had at FC Bayern.

While I do concede that we played wonderful football under KK, and he gave us Ali B and Anelka, I still go for Joe because he gave us back our pride.
 
peoffrey said:
Does anyone truly know exactly how and why Keegan left City? There was talk of mutual consent but I never really understood what triggered the conversation / meeting(s) that ended his tenure. My understanding is that he said he'd had enough and City admitted they wouldn't stand in his way if he wanted to go.

His second spell as Newcastle Manager was hilarious. We considered running a sweepstake at work to see how long he'd last.
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I remember he had told the media he intended to retire at the end of the 2005/06 season when his contract was due to expire, this was around January/February 2005 and with City out of both cups and languishing in mid-table it looked the season was over so they both agreed in the March that Keegan could leave if he wanted to after a 1-0 home defeat to Bolton, which he did. Obviously Pearce then took over, got the team going, and we were within a penalty of the UEFA Cup on the last day which lead to Pearce getting the job.

There was no money and no real ambition at the club, a dark time.
 
The Goat 10 said:
peoffrey said:
Does anyone truly know exactly how and why Keegan left City? There was talk of mutual consent but I never really understood what triggered the conversation / meeting(s) that ended his tenure. My understanding is that he said he'd had enough and City admitted they wouldn't stand in his way if he wanted to go.

His second spell as Newcastle Manager was hilarious. We considered running a sweepstake at work to see how long he'd last.
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I remember he had told the media he intended to retire at the end of the 2005/06 season when his contract was due to expire, this was around January/February 2005 and with City out of both cups and languishing in mid-table it looked the season was over so they both agreed in the March that Keegan could leave if he wanted to after a 1-0 home defeat to Bolton, which he did. Obviously Pearce then took over, got the team going, and we were within a penalty of the UEFA Cup on the last day which lead to Pearce getting the job.

There was no money and no real ambition at the club, a dark time.
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The end of that season was brilliant. Played some great stuff and as you said nearly got to Europe. Singing "we're all going on a European tour" at villa park. Quality.
 
Keegan for me he took us up a league in his tenure, Royle left us where he had joined us, the championship.
 
Despite some outstanding attacking football in that first season and a great first season in the prem I think (as already stated) kk just got too obsessed with big name signings, seaman, tarnat, fowler, bosvet, mcmanaman, sinclair, Sommeil, mills, thatcher. In the first couple of years these Hirt term fixes worked I.e bernarbia, Pearce, berkovic, Schmeichel. And then quit when he realised hed lost control, complete bottle job, everywhere he's been tbh.

Whereas jr saved us and led us to two memorable back to back promotions, let's be honest he prem was always going to be too much too soon, but the grit and determination during his tenure wins it for me.
 
Royle by a mile, 2 successive promotions and 3rd bottom with very little spent.

Keegan had a warchest to play with thanks to Royle's management.
 
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