Joey Barton

[Cityfan]

I think someone should let Arrigo Sacchi know that you should play at the highest level before you understand mens football.

 

[Ric]

I think someone should let Arrigo Sacchi know that you should play at the highest level before you understand mens football.

See also Jose Mourinho, Arsene Wenger, Julian Nagelsmann etc.

 

[jamielowndes]

Questioning the ability of individual pundits is fair enough (fwiw, I don’t think there are many good ones, regardless of gender). However, Barton’s view is that women shouldn’t be allowed to do punditry for men’s games, full stop. That stance is obviously inherently sexist.

I genuinely don't understand how people need this spelling out for them.

We have a thread of over a THOUSAND pages talking about how shit the media are (which is predominantly men) and this twat pipes up about how only men are qualified to talk about men's football and people act like its a valid point.

Being an ex mens player doesn't mean anything if you're talking out your arse.

Lets be absolutely honest with ourselves, Jamie Carragher had a much better career than Nedum Onuoha. Now tell me which one is the better pundit, and the answer doesn't even have anything to do with club allegiances.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

some of the female pundits are 10 times better than the men.

Alex Scott was one of them.

Izzy Christiansen is another.

Some of the stuff coming out of our pundits/commentators' mouths (male/female) are atrocious.

I do agree that we should have the games sticking with the same gender, male-only for men's football and vice versa.

But also Barton is a prick, would love for him to be seriously hurt

 

[BlueHammer85]

If he just stuck to female pundits as his basis for hate then I’d agree that there’s something wrong with him - the fact he’s gone full whacko over everything just proves he’s joined the gravy train where hate/division can increase his following/traffic and it’s all solely to make money.

more outraged people get the more he’s creaming it.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

If he just stuck to female pundits as his basis for hate then I’d agree that there’s something wrong with him - the fact he’s gone full whacko over everything just proves he’s joined the gravy train where hate/division can increase his following/traffic and it’s all solely to make money.

more outraged people get the more he’s creaming it.

Probably not creaming it. Just finding validation via other shitheads

 

[Andy TheCatalyst Morrison]

I think Joey’s right.

I also think that only strikers should be able to comment on strikers, only left-footed players should be able to comment on left-footed players, only bald pundits should be able to have an opinion on Pep, only Klopp should be able to comment on The Banana Splits etc etc

Why anyone gives a fuck whether someone commentating or commenting on the game is male or female, white or black, gay or straight, tall or short, bespectacled or not is just beyond me. Surely all that matters is whether they are saying anything interesting or insightful?

 

[Mon Autre]

Anybody offering to empty Ratboy has my attention.

Shame that his quest for attention has to come at the expense of women, trans folks and people of colour. But yep so long as Gary Neville gets an empty threat levelled his way I suppose it's all worth it.

 

[cheekybids]

But, they're shit? Isn't that his fundamental gripe? Rory Smith has probably never kicked a ball straight, but was still BT Sports best panelist by a country mile. The belief that you need to have played at the highest level to have worthwhile opinions holds no weight.

Also just read Barton assualted his wife in the past, kicking her in the head and choking her. Any man that treats women like that commands zero respect from me, and forfeits their right to an opinion on women's involvement in our game, in any capacity.

Rory Smith is a snide **** & throws in a lot of bullshit whilst sounding like an expert.

It would take me all day to list his errors. However I’m not sure if they are deliberate lies.

 

[Crooked_rain]

I think someone should let Arrigo Sacchi know that you should play at the highest level before you understand mens football.

Didn't John Terry once say Robbie Savage shouldn't comment on him because he never played at a high a level as him? - Funny that considering the best manager he had didn't have a proper playing career.

That's the thing, you don't have to have competed at the highest standard to be very knowledgeable. In boxing, pretty much most the most decorated trainers of all time never had a pro career, or were low level journeymen.

Obviously punditry is difficult because they want recognisable faces on the telly, but it doesn't mean because they won dozens of trophies that they have the ability to break down or pass on knowledge. There's probably ex conference players that could do it better than some ex Premier league pundits, they just never had the athletic gifts to get to that level, so they don't have the name value to get a job on Sky.