John Stones - 2016/17 performances

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What a great player we have already starting to lead. Great to it's like he has been here years and settled so well. The way he always creates space and angles. Very intelligent player.
 
Most post-match Ratings have given him mediocre marks, but I'm with the majority here. Thought he had a solid game in defence and showed some very good enterprise getting into midfield that we were sorely missing in the Celtic game.
 
Dax777 said:
There in lies the problem I whined about all summer. He didn't make many brIn farts. The few he did were just overblown and overplayed. So far he has made 6 mistakes by my count for City. But none have led to goals, so no overblown media coverage.

I kept pointing folks to the obvious during the summer. He made fewer errors than any of our Central defenders 'per minute' last season. Fewer than Kompany, Ota, Mang or MD. But folks just got hypnotized by the 3 errors that led to goals, and started making up other errors by association.

Nothing he has done here is surprising, unusual or unexpected. Thia was how he played at Everton most of last season. Folks just chose not to watch. I downloaded about 15 Everton games and watched them all. I was sold by game 5. He was an unhidden gem wrapped in talking heads bullshit.

Sadly too many bought the bullshit.
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Mistakes/brain farts werent my concern. A lot of what he was doing wrong can be sorted with coaching/instruction and growing up.

But I thought his positional play was poor last season, and for me his qualities on the ball counted for little if he couldnt defend properly.

Been very pleased with his first few months though. With the ball it's what I expected but he's been an excellent presence in defence. And shown leadership skills I don't think he ever showed at Everton.

I said in the summer that I don't see it with Stones but so many others do so I was happy to wait and see, hopefully they were right and I was wrong.

So far so good.
 
moomba said:
Mistakes/brain farts werent my concern. A lot of what he was doing wrong can be sorted with coaching/instruction and growing up.

But I thought his positional play was poor last season, and for me his qualities on the ball counted for little if he couldnt defend properly.

Been very pleased with his first few months though. With the ball it's what I expected but he's been an excellent presence in defence. And shown leadership skills I don't think he ever showed at Everton.

I said in the summer that I don't see it with Stones but so many others do so I was happy to wait and see, hopefully they were right and I was wrong.

So far so good.
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Let me just post this reminder again:

 
moomba said:
Mistakes/brain farts werent my concern. A lot of what he was doing wrong can be sorted with coaching/instruction and growing up.

But I thought his positional play was poor last season, and for me his qualities on the ball counted for little if he couldnt defend properly.

Been very pleased with his first few months though. With the ball it's what I expected but he's been an excellent presence in defence. And shown leadership skills I don't think he ever showed at Everton.

I said in the summer that I don't see it with Stones but so many others do so I was happy to wait and see, hopefully they were right and I was wrong.

So far so good.
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I pointed this out as nauseum over the summer on that famous John Stones thread. I Pointed out his leadership skills were undeniable. I posted video evidence example after video evidence example. I asked folks to watch videos I posted and pointed out how men 2ice his age differed to him. On numerous occasions, Barry, Jageilka would differ to him instinctively. He has always oozed leadership. All the pointing out where players should be, go or stand, he was doing at Everton. I repeated it till I got tired.
His ability to take fantastic positions to the ball was evident on so many of those videos. It seems too many didn't watch them :(

Sadly, he hasn't blown me away coz I've seen most of what he is doing now before. I'm.waiting for when he makes that next level jump personally. This is what I expected his start to be. No surprises here for me yet. When he starts scoring headers on corners. Screamers from outside the box, and mentally imposing his will on top strikers, that's when I'll be impressed. Right now he is just as good as I thought he'll be. Hence why I was one of the all in for him crew.

NB: I was later called our on this as he wasn't playing with any 40 yearolds :)
 
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I would guess we will be looking to add a young centre back opposite him next summer that will become our defensive partnership of the future. Unless Pep makes Tosin a full-time first team member. Think Pep will make him world class and being English and the chance to captain us and win trophies should mean we'll have him as long as we'd like, which should be the best years of his career.
 
Dax777 said:
I pointed this out as nauseum over the summer on that famous John Stones thread. I Pointed out his leadership skills were undeniable. I posted video evidence example after video evidence example. I asked folks to watch videos I posted and pointed out how men 2ice his age differed to him. On numerous occasions, Barry, Jageilka would differ to him instinctively. He has always oozed leadership. All the pointing out where players should be, go or stand, he was doing at Everton. I repeated it till I got tired.
His ability to take fantastic positions to the ball was evident on so many of those videos. It seems too many didn't watch them :(

Sadly, he hasn't blown me away coz I've seen most of what he is doing now before. I'm.waiting for when he makes that next level jump personally. This is what I expected his start to be. No surprises here for me yet. When he starts scoring headers on corners. Screamers from outside the box, and mentally imposing his will on top strikers, that's when I'll be impressed. Right now he is just as good as I thought he'll be. Hence why I was one of the all in for him crew.

NB: I was later called our on this as he wasn't playing with any 40 yearolds :)
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For me Jagielka was the leader of that defence last season. Was hard for Stones as he was often played at fullback.

But the whole defence seemed lost when Jagielka wasnt playing.

To be fair they werent that great when he was playing.
 
Dax777 said:
I pointed this out as nauseum over the summer on that famous John Stones thread. I Pointed out his leadership skills were undeniable. I posted video evidence example after video evidence example. I asked folks to watch videos I posted and pointed out how men 2ice his age differed to him. On numerous occasions, Barry, Jageilka would differ to him instinctively. He has always oozed leadership. All the pointing out where players should be, go or stand, he was doing at Everton. I repeated it till I got tired.
His ability to take fantastic positions to the ball was evident on so many of those videos. It seems too many didn't watch them :(

Sadly, he hasn't blown me away coz I've seen most of what he is doing now before. I'm.waiting for when he makes that next level jump personally. This is what I expected his start to be. No surprises here for me yet. When he starts scoring headers on corners. Screamers from outside the box, and mentally imposing his will on top strikers, that's when I'll be impressed. Right now he is just as good as I thought he'll be. Hence why I was one of the all in for him crew.

NB: I was later called our on this as he wasn't playing with any 40 yearolds :)
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You also forgot to add to wait for when kompany comes back, that's when we'll see him on another level
 
Stones is shaping up very nicely, into being one of the best centre backs in the world, just wish Vinnie was alongside him, not even the All Blacks would get past this combination firing on all cylinders..!
 
RandomJ said:
Once again the English media are obsessed with him booting the ball clear. That article praises him for booting the ball rather than play it out. Everything wrong with English football in one sentence and why the national team are shite who can't even pass to each other.
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Spot on.not read the article,don't need to.you have nailed it.
 
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