John Stones

[Bluearmy]

Stones is the nearest thing to Hansen I've seen. A majestic footballer.

That's frankly laughable

 

[IWasHere]

Read this hread and in 6 months time you will know why stones will be getting slated. People have already made up their minds. It happened with nasri. It happened with raheem. It's now gonna happen wih stones. Be patient

 

[Bill]

That's frankly laughable

We'll see.

 

[doobyedoobye]

When each player would cost £40m+ it's hard to call it a coup, unless they turn into the next Maldini and Baresi then at best they'll live up to the price tag.

I think it's a lot more shrewd than 1 Pogba

 

[Dax777]

Wow! Owen stole the words right out of my mouth. I believe I have used similar words in arguments with Bluearmy. This error prone narrative is made up. He is no more error prone than Alderwierld. Who frankly was the best CB in the league last season.

It is so silly and shocking how soany could be conned into the view on Stones they have.

 

[FJRMCFC]

Wes? He is not even Average. The others are good. Godin, and Thiago Silva were probably the 2 best ones last season. Add Pique and that pretty much rounds up the 3 complete CBs from laat season. Alderwierld, Virgil and Kolcieny from the prem were Strong. So was Pepe, Ramos and Howedes. But outside of the everyone else seem to come with strengths and weaknesses.

This is why I always ask the question, who people rate. There simply aren't many shutdown dominant complete CBs. Not now, nor ever.

In the absence of having a once in a bluemoon player, you are better of with footballers over bruths.

So, Bonucci, Varane, Laporte, Sule, Stones over Chiellini, Pepe, Zouma, Mangala, Rudiger for me.

Koscielny?!? He was absolutely shocking last season, Otamendi had a better season. Morgan ain't great but no denying he was absolutely fantastic last season. Silva is the best centre half for me quality wise but it's difficult when he plays in Ligue 1. Ramos? Hahaha, another one who is a great footballer but a shite defender.

Do agree with that last bit but, instead having to 2 footballers, why not pair a ball playing centre half and then a brute. That is the best combination in my opinion. Laporte or Stones partnered with Otamendi would be better than just a Laporte Stones partnership.

 

[Dax777]

Koscielny?!? He was absolutely shocking last season, Otamendi had a better season. Morgan ain't great but no denying he was absolutely fantastic last season. Silva is the best centre half for me quality wise but it's difficult when he plays in Ligue 1. Ramos? Hahaha, another one who is a great footballer but a shite defender.

Do agree with that last bit but, instead having to 2 footballers, why not pair a ball playing centre half and then a brute. That is the best combination in my opinion. Laporte or Stones partnered with Otamendi would be better than just a Laporte Stones partnership.

it's a theory folks have peddled for a while, but there really is no basis for it. 2 Intelligent footballers ate better in my opinion. Sure one will be more aggressive than the other, or one more skilled as a passer than the other, but neither needs to be a brute. Brutes are just detrimental to top technical teams.

See your point about Silva. As for Morgan I don't think he was fantastic at all. He was average on a team that worked hard as a group defensively. If you want an averagely skilled defender who was consistently good for his team, you are better off checking out Winston Reid, not Morgan.

 

[Bluearmy]

Wow! Owen stole the words right out of my mouth. I believe I have used similar words in arguments with Bluearmy. This error prone narrative is made up. He is no more error prone than Alderwierld. Who frankly was the best CB in the league last season.

It is so silly and shocking how soany could be conned into the view on Stones they have.

That's sealed it for me, it Owen thinks that I'm more convinced than ever he's crap.... Cheers Micky O

 

[PaulMoulden'sRecord]

That's frankly laughable

He might not have watched any football since 1985...

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Tbh I think Otamendi was a case of us not being able to get our money from Valencia (pre Peter Lim) and agreeing to take Otamendi in place of the Negredo fee to avoid getting them into serious trouble re FFP.

This. Its why we gave Denayer a new contract and then had to loan him. It was an opportunity that fell in our lap. The alternative was them selling him to United. I think the club felt it had to do it at the time.