John Stones

[TRUE BLUE NO1]

I agree, but unfortunately I don't agree that Stones is a top player, he's far from it right now. He lost his place at Everton last season, and rightly so. He also couldn't make the England starting eleven during the Euros, and in my opinion he was up against the two poorest centre backs England have played in a major tournament for many years. I would expect a 45-50 million player to be a regular at both club and country. 30 million for him would be about right in todays crazy market.

Fair point mate!;) I guess we willing to push our offer, for "Stones future potential" which is difficult to put a value on but if Pep feels he can make him a top CB in the prem, then 45-50mil would be a true valuation. cheers

 

[Erling Haaland's Eyebrows]

Hearing that Stones and Sane have been trying to ring Txiki to see what's going on but they keep being met by Txiki's voicemail saying that he's in China and will try and sort things out when he gets back.

Really? What have you been smoking!!?

 

[TRUE BLUE NO1]

Was just pointing out what Chelsea valued him at 12 month ago,obviously Everton would of seen it a lot more,eventually they turned down a 30m bid.
Could his value of doubled after the season he had?
For me he's a £35-£40m player,just opinion.
If we end up paying £50,£60 whatever million,I ain't really arsed.

Hi mate...I would agree that the premium on English players and the new tv money have added to his valuation over the last 12months. Players are only worth what clubs are willing to pay and as you rightly say, I dont worry about the cost, if Pep thinks he's worth it, thats good enough for me!;)

 

[Monkchester]

Hi mate...I would agree that the premium on English players and the new tv money have added to his valuation over the last 12months. Players are only worth what clubs are willing to pay and as you rightly say, I dont worry about the cost, if Pep thinks he's worth it, thats good enough for me!;)

Higuain 95m Euros - This just proves the market has gone crazy and why realistically we will have to pay the man for our targets. If this year is bad price wise imagine next year when all the Premier league clubs have a second year of the new tv money. Do the deals this summer for the established players we need now and then rely on the young players we are buying, and the academy lads that are coming through, for the future. Let's not miss the boat like we did a few years ago and make sure we give Pep the players he needs to establish the next great dynasty in English football.

 

[mosssideblue]

Hearing that Stones and Sane have been trying to ring Txiki to see what's going on but they keep being met by Txiki's voicemail saying that he's in China and will try and sort things out when he gets back.

Your hearing things, seek help. Crikey, its disturbing what shit some people post

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

I don't agree.

This hasn't been dragged through the mud like Sterling, DeBruyne or even Stones to Chelsea last year. There's no vociferous fighting from Everton. They just want their valuation met, even if we have an agreement with the agent and the player.

I think we've wanted to downplay the money bags City angle by being cute and haggling but are now (hopefully) biting the bullet for the right players that improve our first XI.

I think it's finally the right call too, because it's a freak year, where Troy Deeney is having £30m bids thrown at him and Lukaku is valued at £65m. Everyone is moneybags, so we may spend a bit more but providing our scouting is up to scratch then it should look decent value in the end.

You mean it hasn't been done in the media. So any of us don't really know what exactly has been happening.
Yet certain posters (not you BTW) still find a way to use it as a dig at someone at the Club.

 

[The slaughtered lamb]

Really? What have you been smoking!!?

 

[mosssideblue]

Higuain 95m Euros - This just proves the market has gone crazy and why realistically we will have to pay the man for our targets. If this year is bad price wise imagine next year when all the Premier league clubs have a second year of the new tv money. Do the deals this summer for the established players we need now and then rely on the young players we are buying, and the academy lads that are coming through, for the future. Let's not miss the boat like we did a few years ago and make sure we give Pep the players he needs to establish the next great dynasty in English football.

We are looking to do the deals this summer though , arn,t we ?

 

[TRUE BLUE NO1]

Higuain 95m Euros - This just proves the market has gone crazy and why realistically we will have to pay the man for our targets. If this year is bad price wise imagine next year when all the Premier league clubs have a second year of the new tv money. Do the deals this summer for the established players we need now and then rely on the young players we are buying, and the academy lads that are coming through, for the future. Let's not miss the boat like we did a few years ago and make sure we give Pep the players he needs to establish the next great dynasty in English football.

I agree mate...think the market/cost is only going to go up again over the next few years. If Stones/Sane are the 2 main targets, we need to just get it done! The way we doing potential loans deals for players like Jesus and Moreno, we might not have to jump head first into the transfer market next year...If both those players return after loan spells, it will be like signing new players next summer.

 

[Monkchester]

I agree mate...think the market/cost is only going to go up again over the next few years. If Stones/Sane are the 2 main targets, we need to just get it done! The way we doing potential loans deals for players like Jesus and Moreno, we might not have to jump head first into the transfer market next year...If both those players return after loan spells, it will be like signing new players next summer.

Exactly my point - take the short term hit and I am sure we will get the long term gain.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Well for one Pep is openly a big fan of him. And secondly because Stones is everything Pep wants in a defender. Watch the way we were set up against Bayern in the friendly, notice how much of the ball the defence had? Stones is tailor made for that role. Pep isn't an idiot. He isn't going to sign a defender for £50 million unless that defender is perfect for his team.

Plus he's been the No. 1 target, for how long now.

 

[efcblue]

So stats only apply when they back you up but as soon as it's shown that they don't support your arguments they suddenly don't count? Did I get that right?

No, stats always apply, just proving that minutes per goal is utter bollocks in any context.

I ain't tarnishing you all with the same brush,was merely saying or should of said,"some"of your delightful fans forced him out of his home....this is fact.
Do you honestly think after him apparently saying he wants to join City,he'd be welcome at Goodison if the deal collapses?

Permanently ignored.

Ok if you say so, I do however live in Liverpool and work for a company who have a big contract with Everton and was told that by an current employe/ ex-player yesterday...... But what would he know.

Okay cool mate, well I'm actually a fan of the football club and know things myself. I'm much happier knowing that what you put is incorrect.

 

[The slaughtered lamb]

Permanently ignored.

He'll be crestfallen.

 

[efcblue]

He'll be crestfallen.

I really don't care how little it may impact him. I told him I wasn't interested in slinging shit and he continued to sling shit, so I'm letting him know not to continue.

That goes for anything unrelated to Stones from this point on, too. I'm not here for it.

 

[malg]

@efcblue - what are the thoughts of Evertonians about this deal? Obviously I'm taking your view as that of all Everton fans..!

 

[The slaughtered lamb]

I really don't care how little it may impact him. I told him I wasn't interested in slinging shit and he continued to sling shit, so I'm letting him know not to continue.

That goes for anything unrelated to Stones from this point on, too. I'm not here for it.

Permanently ignored.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

I really don't care how little it may impact him. I told him I wasn't interested in slinging shit and he continued to sling shit, so I'm letting him know not to continue.

That goes for anything unrelated to Stones from this point on, too. I'm not here for it.

That's fair enough. But you come on a City forum and start throwing your weight around, if someone
has the temerity to disagree with you. You have some fucking cheek. You can ignore me too.
I will be ignoring your holier than thou shite.

 

[Phil1]

I really don't care how little it may impact him. I told him I wasn't interested in slinging shit and he continued to sling shit, so I'm letting him know not to continue.

That goes for anything unrelated to Stones from this point on, too. I'm not here for it.

I bet you're fun at parties.

 

[efcblue]

@efcblue - what are the thoughts of Evertonians about this deal? Obviously I'm taking your view as that of all Everton fans..!

The general feeling is that it was always going to happen, £50m is the minimum we should get and any less would be poor, we'd have liked him to stay but if we can replace him properly (Koulibaly?) then that's fine. It needs to happen soon though, there's been very little happening with Everton in the window so far and fans are getting a bit twitchy.

Permanently ignored.

Likewise, I'm not here converse with (supposedly) grown men acting like children.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

It's not your money, stop flapping.

It's not my money, but I can still have an opinion on the fee.