John Stones

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It wasn't just Woy though was it!? I saw no clamour from the mainstream media pundits calling for Stones to take his place- or even Cahill for that matter. That worries me. It either proves one of two things that media is infested with rags or he's simply not all he is cracked up to be.

By the way I was being facetious, I have no doubt that if England places selected on quality alone that Stones would and should have been selected. It's one of the reasons why England will never be successful imo.

That had a lot to do with how England were playing. England wasn't trying to dominate possession like say how Spain or even Germany would. The squad as a whole can't do it in that style. So to have Cahill or Smalling in as defenders probably made more sense to some.

Pep has to play from the back as he sees possession as his defence basically. The less the opposition has the ball the less they can score. It starts from the back and being able to play out of pressure. If Mangala or Otamendi were to play and wouldn't be able to help keep the ball ticking, the opposition would gain more possession putting more pressure to defend.

The only real concern with Stones would be his ability to defend 1 v 1. He'll need to be able to do that when we lose possession and teams try to counter with the long ball. I've seen Alaba make some horrible mistakes as well as Benatia and because the way Bayern played there isn't any help behind except for the keeper.
 
even tho he seems keen to push through a move, talk of the deal possibly being completed early next week are a bit premature. we still have to bid and everton still have to accept it, and going by the last couple of times we dealt with them, they enjoy a bit of hardball
 
even tho he seems keen to push through a move, talk of the deal possibly being completed early next week are a bit premature. we still have to bid and everton still have to accept it, and going by the last couple of times we dealt with them, they enjoy a bit of hardball

According to some reports they've already lined up his replacement so they'll want the money in soonish. He's been asking to leave for 2 years now, it's in both clubs interests to get this done quick.
 
even tho he seems keen to push through a move, talk of the deal possibly being completed early next week are a bit premature. we still have to bid and everton still have to accept it, and going by the last couple of times we dealt with them, they enjoy a bit of hardball

Txiki's negotiating doesn't help

Offer £40m wait for rejection
Offer £42.5m wait for rejection
Offer £45m wait for rejection
Offer £47.5m wait for rejection
Offer £47.5m + add ons to £50m discuss finer details and get offer accepted.

Call me old fashioned but just get all parties round a table ffs & get a deal agreed!!!!!
 

SO you seriously think that player that was benched by Jag and Cahill is better than best defender for United(who btw had best defensive record in PL) and arguably was englands best defender. Ignore potential because we are not getting him for peanuts but 50M. And not in 2 years or 5 years, but now.

I know we all hate rags and must say every player is crap there, but come on. suggesting something like that is not laughable. Stones hasnt proved anything yet to say he is best english defender, not even close. Suggesting that he can replace Otamendi is even crazier, hell Mangala was at one point hottest defender prospect in continent. Only thing there is that stupid 50m price tag that says he must be half decent, fuck everton and english tax for that btw.

If everton somehow get Koulibaly as replacement for less than we paid them I will cry a little inside.

But if we sign him of course I will support him like any City player, unlike many here attacking our players at every chance.
 
SO you seriously think that player that was benched by Jag and Cahill is better than best defender for United(who btw had best defensive record in PL) and arguably was englands best defender. Ignore potential because we are not getting him for peanuts but 50M. And not in 2 years or 5 years, but now.

I know we all hate rags and must say every player is crap there, but come on. suggesting something like that is not laughable. Stones hasnt proved anything yet to say he is best english defender, not even close. Suggesting that he can replace Otamendi is even crazier, hell Mangala was at one point hottest defender prospect in continent. Only thing there is that stupid 50m price tag that says he must be half decent, fuck everton and english tax for that btw.

If everton somehow get Koulibaly as replacement for less than we paid them I will cry a little inside.

But if we sign him of course I will support him like any City player, unlike many here attacking our players at every chance.
Smalling isn't fit to lace Stones's boots.
 
SO you seriously think that player that was benched by Jag and Cahill is better than best defender for United(who btw had best defensive record in PL) and arguably was englands best defender. Ignore potential because we are not getting him for peanuts but 50M. And not in 2 years or 5 years, but now.

I know we all hate rags and must say every player is crap there, but come on. suggesting something like that is not laughable. Stones hasnt proved anything yet to say he is best english defender, not even close. Suggesting that he can replace Otamendi is even crazier, hell Mangala was at one point hottest defender prospect in continent. Only thing there is that stupid 50m price tag that says he must be half decent, fuck everton and english tax for that btw.

If everton somehow get Koulibaly as replacement for less than we paid them I will cry a little inside.

But if we sign him of course I will support him like any City player, unlike many here attacking our players at every chance.

well put , if we do end paying up 50m for him or thereabouts , hope he copes up with the pressure ...unlike sterling

on a positive side both are very young and I am sure will come good under pep
 
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