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mattyb said:
I've just seen some of the graphics they designed for the Stones signing.

One thing that was strikingly obvious was that there was no squad number incorporated into the designs yet.

Have the ful list of squad numbers been published yet?

I thought number 2 would be the obvious choice for Stones, unless Zaba gives up number 5, and picks up number 2
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Considering they are doing the graphics for Stones, this looks set to be done mate?

Also good call on the Sane transfer ! :)
 
mattyb said:
I've just seen some of the graphics they designed for the Stones signing.

One thing that was strikingly obvious was that there was no squad number incorporated into the designs yet.

Have the ful list of squad numbers been published yet?

I thought number 2 would be the obvious choice for Stones, unless Zaba gives up number 5, and picks up number 2
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He's taking number 10 and Aguero is going back to 16. Fecker is like a woman dress shopping and has decided he wants the first one again.

I assume we'll be trying to free up some of the lower numbers, so the squad numbers may be on hold until we get rid of the deadwood, sorry valued squad members.
 
dannyboiblue said:
Im not sure why we are even talking about the fee. The market has gone mad. If pep wants him we pay what we think is correct or move on. If its 40m 50m and we win trophys with him then the fee will be forgotten
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Transfer fees are a stick that fans of other clubs use to beat us with. Personally, I'm with you, couldn't give a flying fuck what the fee for any player is as long as we meet the ffp restrictions and the player lives up to his billing. I think Stones will.

That being said, I will certainly use the pogba fee as a stick to beat rag fans with because that is just fucking ludicrous money ;)
 
MCFC_4Heatons said:
My main issue with Otamendi is his being on his arse too much .... When you are the last defender your decision making has to be spot on and staying on your feet/jockeying/slowing down an attacker is an important part of defending, he only seems to have one mode which is diving in and trying to win the ball just about every time.
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He is who he is and we must have known that. For me, he was our strongest defender last season and I expect he will improve this year
 
kupest said:
Considering they are doing the graphics for Stones, this looks set to be done mate?

Also good call on the Sane transfer ! :)
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They get started on the graphics and stuff as soon as they are confident something will happen, it doesn't guarantee anything, but it's a decent indicator that things are moving in the right direction....
 
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efcblue said:
This man gets it.
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Like I said before, it does make a difference because being a 40m defender or the most expensive defender in history is not the same.

Stones has had a tough season and he doesn't need another one. The media has a bias towards us and will destroy Stones for every mistake he makes and having a record fee on his head will only make him an easier target. You can be mentally strong but football players are human too and like it or not the media effects players. I think this is one of the main reasons City are haggling.

Many people overlook this and its completely understandable but we already saw how the media attacked Sterling even though he had a solid season. Stones could easily be City's new scapegoat especially if we pay 50m+.
 
mattyb said:
They get started on the graphics and stuff as soon as they are confident something will happen, it doesn't guarantee anything, but it's a decent indicator that things are moving in the right direction....
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How long do they take to do, then Matty?

Wouldn't it be more economical to wait 'till everything was signed & sealed. I imagine it is quite an expensive process, if a transfer eventually falls through
 
Easy said:
we already saw how the media attacked Sterling even though he had a solid season. Stones could easily be City's new scapegoat especially if we pay 50m+.
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It's all part of Pep's masterplan to take pressure off Sterling.
 
Easy said:
Like I said before, it does make a difference because being a 40m defender or the most expensive defender in history is not the same.

Stones has had a tough season and he doesn't need another one. The media has a bias towards us and will destroy Stones for every mistake he makes and having a record fee on his head will only make him an easier target. You can be mentally strong but football players are human too and like it or not the media effects players. I think this is one of the main reasons City are haggling.

Many people overlook this and its completely understandable but we already saw how the media attacked Sterling even though he had a solid season. Stones could easily be City's new scapegoat especially if we pay 50m+.
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Trevor Francis was on the radio yesterday, talking about Pogba (probably) becoming the first £100m player. Francis was very clear that being the first £1m player was a big deal for him. Said that when City signed Steve Daley for £1.5m it was a huge relief! Transfer fees do create pressure, especially if the player struggles early on.
 
GeorgeHeslop'sTackle. said:
How long do they take to do, then Matty?

Wouldn't it be more economical to wait 'till everything was signed & sealed. I imagine it is quite an expensive process, if a transfer eventually falls through
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Because everything is computerized it will involve very little expense to get to a certain stage.
 
GeorgeHeslop'sTackle. said:
How long do they take to do, then Matty?

Wouldn't it be more economical to wait 'till everything was signed & sealed. I imagine it is quite an expensive process, if a transfer eventually falls through
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In terms of time it's how longs a piece of string to be honest. All depends on the media work, photos, agancy availability, people on the job... So many variables go into it.

You're correct in assuming its expensive, it really is. Typically they will run an estimated risk analysis on the transfer before starting / commissioning the work.

They don't get many wrong in my experience, but it has happened where transfers have fallen through in the past. Not just at city, but at most clubs
 
bulldogblue said:
Because everything is computerized it will involve very little expense to get to a certain stage.
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That's true to a certain extent, but if they use any contractors or outsource any of the work, they'd typically be paying a day rate for the labour
 
mattyb said:
In terms of time it's how longs a piece of string to be honest. All depends on the media work, photos, agancy availability, people on the job... So many variables go into it.

You're correct in assuming its expensive, it really is. Typically they will run an estimated risk analysis on the transfer before starting / commissioning the work.

They don't get many wrong in my experience, but it has happened where transfers have fallen through in the past. Not just at city, but at most clubs
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Cheers mate. We really do appreciate all the info you share.
 
efcblue said:
This man gets it.
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dannyboiblue said:
Im not sure why we are even talking about the fee. The market has gone mad. If pep wants him we pay what we think is correct or move on. If its 40m 50m and we win trophys with him then the fee will be forgotten
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And yet reportedly the reason why this deal has not gone through is because we value him at £40m and EFC at £50m. You can't say in one sentence that "I am not sure why we are even talking about the fee", and in the next "we pay what we think is correct". That seems to me to be a contradiction.
 
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