John Stones

[Easy]

Trevor Francis was on the radio yesterday, talking about Pogba (probably) becoming the first £100m player. Francis was very clear that being the first £1m player was a big deal for him. Said that when City signed Steve Daley for £1.5m it was a huge relief! Transfer fees do create pressure, especially if the player struggles early on.

IMO Pogba will flop, the £100m price tag will weigh down on him and he will try to do too much and will be surrounded by mediocre players in midfield making it even harder for him.

Interesting bit on Francis, I really am hoping we don't meet Everton's valuation of Stones.

Personally would rather not have the player if we have to make him the world's most expensive defender which is the title that would be constantly associated with him, you wouldn't see one article or report on Stones without mentioning it. Articles and commentary would go like this:

World's most expensive defender makes a mistake that leads to a goal.

World's most expensive defender starts today's game on the bench for City (even if hes being rested/rotated).

World's most expensive defender can't make the England starting eleven.

We wouldn't hear the end of it!!!

Its too much pressure for a 22-year old kid, he wouldn't be able to cope.

 

[mattyb]

@mattyb drop me a pm when they start working on Bonucci or Aubameyang's graphics;D

Nice one

I will if I hear anything!

I posted a few weeks back that I'm anticipating a busy summer, as they Sane digital work has been outsourced to a 3rd party, which means they expect the internal team to be maxed out.

 

[OB1]

Good point. I'm just assuming he will, but it's difficult to say for certain. He's experimented a bit in the friendlies so far, but I'd be surprised if he started with a back three. I think he'll wait until all the centre halves are fit before trying that competitively.

I think he will mostly use a back four in terms of personnel but we might well see plenty of Dinho dropping back in between the centre backs whilst full backs push on.

 

[117 M34]

In terms of time it's how longs a piece of string to be honest. All depends on the media work, photos, agancy availability, people on the job... So many variables go into it.

You're correct in assuming its expensive, it really is. Typically they will run an estimated risk analysis on the transfer before starting / commissioning the work.

They don't get many wrong in my experience, but it has happened where transfers have fallen through in the past. Not just at city, but at most clubs

Go on then, tell us who city had graphics done for that never came off. Kaka?

 

[markbmcfc]

Go on then, tell us who city had graphics done for that never came off. Kaka?

Laporte.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Go on then, tell us who city had graphics done for that never came off. Kaka?

I'm going to guess at:

Messi
Van Persie
Hazard
Isco
Rooney

 

[nmc]

I'm going to guess at:

Messi
Van Persie
Hazard
Isco
Rooney

Mido!
Thomas!!!!

 

[efcblue]

And yet reportedly the reason why this deal has not gone through is because we value him at £40m and EFC at £50m. You can't say in one sentence that "I am not sure why we are even talking about the fee", and in the next "we pay what we think is correct". That seems to me to be a contradiction.

I am not sure why you're talking about the fee though.

You will pay what you think is correct. Or rather, you'll try to.

Everton will accept or reject that depending on whether or not that fee is £50,000,000.

There's nothing else to discuss and that's why I'm not sure people are talking about the fee.

 

[whicko]

Wonder if the Everton fans will sing 'Money can't buy you Stones' for much longer,doubt it myself!

 

[BringBackSwales]

I am not sure why you're talking about the fee though.

You will pay what you think is correct. Or rather, you'll try to.

Everton will accept or reject that depending on whether or not that fee is £50,000,000.

There's nothing else to discuss and that's why I'm not sure people are talking about the fee.

Do you find it reassuring to repeat that?

 

[Marvin]

I am not sure why you're talking about the fee though.

You will pay what you think is correct. Or rather, you'll try to.

Everton will accept or reject that depending on whether or not that fee is £50,000,000.

There's nothing else to discuss and that's why I'm not sure people are talking about the fee.

We'll see. What is clear is that this should have been sorted a long time ago. Dragging it out for a small gain (compared to Moshiri's largesse) damages your squad....means you have less time and a smaller number of available players, and will end up paying more....or you'll start the season with a fed up Stones

 

[Deleted member 58678]

IMO Pogba will flop, the £100m price tag will weigh down on him and he will try to do too much and will be surrounded by mediocre players in midfield making it even harder for him.

Interesting bit on Francis, I really am hoping we don't meet Everton's valuation of Stones.

Personally would rather not have the player if we have to make him the world's most expensive defender which is the title that would be constantly associated with him, you wouldn't see one article or report on Stones without mentioning it. Articles and commentary would go like this:

World's most expensive defender makes a mistake that leads to a goal.

World's most expensive defender starts today's game on the bench for City (even if hes being rested/rotated).

World's most expensive defender can't make the England starting eleven.

We wouldn't hear the end of it!!!

Its too much pressure for a 22-year old kid, he wouldn't be able to cope.

The thing is with Stones, I think he would be able to cope with it. I remember a game at Goodison last season where he was shielding the ball in his own box and did really well and got out of a tough situation. The Everton fans were going mad at him to "get rid" but he had total composure and had the situation under control. When he'd moved the ball forward he turned round and [quite funnily] went "calm down, calm down" to the Everton fans, as if to say, "don't worry you Scouse wankers, I know what the fuck I'm doing!"

 

[kupest]

The Everton fan boy on here is a bit of a pisser, keeps on insisting the fee will be 50 million nothing else and City can't do shit to lower it even by a million. No one knows whats on Evertons mind or Citys mind regards to the fee. Do you actually think Everton will reject a 49.8 mill offer? The fact that Everton has come to the table means there is always a chance of a compromise, you just don't know how much that compromise from either end will be. Must be tough to see your club do zilch till August except get linked and rejected.

 

[Easy]

The thing is with Stones, I think he would be able to cope with it. I remember a game at Goodison last season where he was shielding the ball in his own box and did really well and got out of a tough situation. The Everton fans were going mad at him to "get rid" but he had total composure and had the situation under control. When he'd moved the ball forward he turned round and [quite funnily] went "calm down, calm down" to the Everton fans, as if to say, "don't worry you Scouse wankers, I know what the fuck I'm doing!"

Good point, I still think that Everton may settle for 45m instead of keeping a player another season who made it clear he wants to go to City. They seem to be already looking at other CBs, hopefully the deal is finalized in the next week or so.

 

[sir baconface]

I'm not sure why the story of Otamendi being a "flop" has started to become a widespread opinion. He was brilliant at times last season, and when he wasn't great, you could nearly always put it down to Pellegrini's mad defensive set up forcing him to jump out of the line.

Under Pep, and with a season to get used to England and the team, I expect he'll make a few people writing him off look pretty silly.

This. People said much the same about Zab in his first season over here. With a little bit of direction - which I'm sure he will get - this lad should become a major player for us.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

This. People said much the same about Zab in his first season over here. With a little bit of direction - which I'm sure he will get - this lad should become a major player for us.

People want Stones and claim he was ruined under Martinez IMO Otamendi was ruined under Pellegrini

Stones, Kompany and Otamendi is a formidable choice.

 

[blueincy]

Anyone who uses transfermarkt (they can't even spell market ffs) to value players should not talk about transfers. At all. Ever.

I was being polite saying he was even worth what they quote pal..


Tell Stoned that!! It's hes agencies site...

http://www.transfermarkt.com/star-management-signings-ltd-/beraterfirma/berater/2065

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

Very close now, Everton in for Ashley williams

 

[TRUE BLUE NO1]

Anyone know when Mangala back in training? Sagna was back today, but havent seen any confirmation on Mangala? Maybe just reading too much into things but hoping Stones is close to joining!

 

[kaz7]

Anyone know when Mangala back in training? Sagna was back today, but havent seen any confirmation on Mangala? Maybe just reading too much into things but hoping Stones is close to joining!

He would be back today but maybe he is on the naughty step with sami