John Stones

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Some act like we have a divine right to sign a player. If the selling club want to play hard to maximise their fee, that's their perogitive.
It is their prerogative. They could have identified targets, and put deals in place, but instead they adopt a sitting duck strategy of setting a price for their players. They might extract huge fees, but I don't think from a footballing point of view it was the best strategy, seeing as they are not sure of a few millions themselves. What do they do if City do decide to pay up? Celebrate the £50m, or worry that they have no defence left.
 
I think this one will happen, just frustrating for all concerned when it drags on. It's in everyone's interest to get this done before the start of the season and hopefully it will be.

I suspect a compromise will be reached regarding add ons, that will eventually see the fee meet Everton's valuation.
 
Wish we'd do a little bit more of it to be honest.
Our players get ripped to shreds like Mangala and Sterling. Chelsea use the transfer mkt as a way of making money. Each season they make big signings, but are also able to sell players, whereas City are rarely able to do so. There have been some exceptions eg Rodwell.
 
Everton wanted Hart - I'd have done that deal - £40m they were willing to pay.

Whether Hart would have gone for it...
It'd be decent business that. Let them have Bony for £25m and Mangala for £20m then if they get the £75m for Lukaku they've covered both outgoings and got a top keeper thrown in for good measure.
Jeez, it's easy this football lark.. Haha!
 
Everton wanted Hart - I'd have done that deal - £40m they were willing to pay.

Whether Hart would have gone for it...
Well then we wouldn't have a recognised top level keeper and Hart would clearly not leave us to go to Everton unless he was told he would be No2 no matter what and eeeeeeeeeeeven then I cant imagine he wouldn't go to Everton
Also that would mean the club value him at £10 million which is probably about half of what they could actually get for him
Other than that though its a terrible idea
 
So the club said no?

But Pep wants rid of Joe according to here?
It's a bit disingenuous saying "according to here"
There's been links throughout the Summer in regards to goalkeepers and they don't seem to be going away. Wherever you choose to believe the validity of the links is one thing but making out we're just taking it upon ourselves to say Pep wants someone new is another.
 
Everton wanted Hart - I'd have done that deal - £40m they were willing to pay.

Whether Hart would have gone for it...
Then, like every other fan who sits near me and slags the lad off, you'd be sat there saying, 'God, wish we still had Joey, this lads shite'
There are literally 3 keepers in the world were genuine arguments can be made that are better and none are available.
 
So the club said no?

But Pep wants rid of Joe according to here?

It was reported not that long ago that Pep wanted rid of Joe but the higher ups at club wanted him to stay and convinced Pep to try and work with him.
 
Maybe the point Tolmie is making about Joe is that Everton were active in the transfer mkt and he was just using hart as an example.

I am glad we showed faith in hart. If he has a problem with his distribution then he can work on it.
 
Well then we wouldn't have a recognised top level keeper and Hart would clearly not leave us to go to Everton unless he was told he would be No2 no matter what and eeeeeeeeeeeven then I cant imagine he wouldn't go to Everton
Also that would mean the club value him at £10 million which is probably about half of what they could actually get for him
Other than that though its a terrible idea


Wouldn't have a recognised top keeper? We're still planning to sign one!

Hart won't be told he is No.2 - he'll be told to fight for his place.

As for your valuation?, if Everton were prepared to pay £40m for Hart, and value Stones at £50m, then the only shortfall we would have to cover is £10m.

Hardly a terrible idea.
 
It was reported not that long ago that Pep wanted rid of Joe but the higher ups at club wanted him to stay and convinced Pep to try and work with him.

I can't accept that.

I can imagine Pep coming to that decision himself, but not being persuaded to by the bosses. I don't think they would give a shit either way.

I think both our keepers are on thin ice personally.
 
I can't accept that.

I can imagine Pep coming to that decision himself, but not being persuaded to by the bosses. I don't think they would give a shit either way.

I think both our keepers are on thin ice personally.

There are going to be a lot of disappointed blues, I feel.

You are correct, they are both in firing line and Pep will get what he wants.

I'll wager with anyone that Hart will be gone before Pep is finished here.

I think he would be a great back-up keeper, but he's not going to accept that is he?
 
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