Crossrail 2 will be handy in as much as its northern stop will define where "The North" starts for the govt
I know you're joking, but the current plan does nothing of the sort. No-one thinks Broxbourne is 'the north'.
It's a very odd-looking line proposal - it'll relieve some pressure on one north London commuter line (Alexandra Palace area), and some in SW London. I don't know what they are actually claiming it will help with.
You need to make a fair comparison here because did the services in Finland or Sweden already exist albeit on antiquated old lines? If they had an old line already performing those services then there's no chance that they'd build a separate competing line purely for speed or even capacity.
It's worth noting that the trains that we do have aren't slow, the Virgin trains for example get up to 130mph. There is just no need for an alternative service on a completely separate line that just so happens to go a bit faster, that is the idiocy of HS2.
The reality is that people will choose the cheaper option over the faster option and I'll bet my house that once HS2 opens it's trains will be empty and the Virgin type trains will continue to be packed to the rafters. For other countries there aren't two options so it's not a fair comparison.
You are still making excuses for not doing something and saying it is unfair to compare us to other European countries that have done something. European countries also faced challenges based on geography or history or politics and most have done something, recognising decades ago that high speed rail and greater rail capacity is an asset.
With climate change, rail is back in focus and Europe is looking at expanding rail usage for passengers and goods and high speed rail connections between major capitals. We keep doing studies and making plans about what we need to do and then never actually doing it or trying to ‘bodge it and make do’. I mean, anyone confident that these watered down rail plans for the North will ever materialise?
China built one of the worlds dams to generate electricity took them 4 year! They talking about 20 years for hs2 why so long I know channel tunnel took 16 years but that was a tunnel!
Making excuses for this government is what he does best tbf.You are still making excuses for not doing something and saying it is unfair to compare us to other European countries that have done something. European countries also faced challenges based on geography or history or politics and most have done something, recognising decades ago that high speed rail and greater rail capacity is an asset.
With climate change, rail is back in focus and Europe is looking at expanding rail usage for passengers and goods and high speed rail connections between major capitals. We keep doing studies and making plans about what we need to do and then never actually doing it or trying to ‘bodge it and make do’. I mean, anyone confident that these watered down rail plans for the North will ever materialise?
China relocated 4m people destroyed over 1300 villages, 140 towns and 13 cities that were thousands of years old along with ancient monuments. They’ve since been plagued with earthquakes and landslides
We have to down tools for weeks on end if we find a newt.
So not really comparable is it? Unless you’d think wiping out 13 cities wouldn’t be a problem? Would certainly save having to worry about building a train line between them ;)
China relocated 4m people destroyed over 1300 villages, 140 towns and 13 cities that were thousands of years old along with ancient monuments. They’ve since been plagued with earthquakes and landslides
We have to down tools for weeks on end if we find a newt.
So not really comparable is it? Unless you’d think wiping out 13 cities wouldn’t be a problem? Would certainly save having to worry about building a train line between them ;)
I don't think they are excuses, it's just reality. Building things is much harder here because more or less everything already exists albeit usually in an older (and crapper) form. You then have to get around the legal issues and problems of building.You are still making excuses for not doing something and saying it is unfair to compare us to other European countries that have done something. European countries also faced challenges based on geography or history or politics and most have done something, recognising decades ago that high speed rail and greater rail capacity is an asset.
With climate change, rail is back in focus and Europe is looking at expanding rail usage for passengers and goods and high speed rail connections between major capitals. We keep doing studies and making plans about what we need to do and then never actually doing it or trying to ‘bodge it and make do’. I mean, anyone confident that these watered down rail plans for the North will ever materialise?