Jorginho

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And why do you think that is, because they are complicated with many parties involved or they are piss easy and our club are rubbish at it ? How many teams have completed all their transfers because I'm fairly confident this time next week we will be the only team finished done and dusted ?
I didnt mean it in a negative way i just saying based on previous transfer experience we will eventually pay up and there is no need to worry about not getting him.
 
As i cant say what this guy does. in terms of not seeing him play. what does he give us that Fred wont Not querying PEP. but i did see the value in signing Fred
From what I can gather from people who have watched him play, he is more positionally aware, more composed on the ball and his passing range is better.
 
But, we did well against the bus parkers. Mahrez is being brought in to help in this regard too. Why Jorginho is a valid question if he is more of a Gundogan than a Fernandinho.
He is replacing Yaya. Jurghino is significantly better than Yaya defensively. And passes just as well as the prime Yaya did. Minus the attacking edge. How is that a problem?

And for what it's worth, we never lost a game with Gundogan at DM this season

Make of that what you may.
 
He is replacing Yaya. Jurghino is significantly better than Yaya defensively. And passes just as well as the prime Yaya did. Minus the attacking edge. How is that a problem?

And for what it's worth, we never lost a game with Gundogan at DM this season

Make of that what you may.

Agree mate but in my opinion, its Fern we should be looking at getting cover/long term replacement for, not Yaya......Yaya hardly had any game time last season, so when looking at the big picture, isnt a big impact him leaving. For me, we should be looking at someone like Fred, who would be a more direct cover/replacement for Fern. Fern is 33yrs old and its a risk for us to expect him to play the same amount of minutes as last season....
 
Agree mate but in my opinion, its Fern we should be looking at getting cover/long term replacement for, not Yaya......Yaya hardly had any game time last season, so when looking at the big picture, isnt a big impact him leaving. For me, we should be looking at someone like Fred, who would be a more direct cover/replacement for Fern. Fern is 33yrs old and its a risk for us to expect him to play the same amount of minutes as last season....

maybe we're replacing prime Yaya and the Fern role will be phased out as the side evolves...
 
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Dax fellow Blues were saying I'm not sure with Bernardo, he's slow, he doesn't score enough etc etc, I'm not having a go, I'm just pointing out what some were saying and said before and after he arrived, now the same is being said about Jorginho, you wait this guy is going to be excellent @ City.
I remember complaints about him not being fast enough to play wide and often slowing us down. But before buying him, there were no complaints I can remember.

The general consensus was that he was a steal at 43 million
 
It does confuse me a bit that Jorginho's alternative would be Fred.

Does Fred even have the same traits, especially in terms of passing?
 
Would rather we looked at other options. Said before that this was never going to be completed quickly. It has the potential to drag on all summer, but I think we’ll ultimately pull out.

We could do with signing two midfielders really. One to play Fernandinho’s role and one to replace Gundogan. Jorginho always looked more like the latter to me.
 
Would rather we looked at other options. Said before that this was never going to be completed quickly. It has the potential to drag on all summer, but I think we’ll ultimately pull out.

We could do with signing two midfielders really. One to play Fernandinho’s role and one to replace Gundogan. Jorginho always looked more like the latter to me.
Gundy is going nowhere and its JUNE 2ND
 
And why do you think that is, because they are complicated with many parties involved or they are piss easy and our club are rubbish at it ? How many teams have completed all their transfers because I'm fairly confident this time next week we will be the only team finished done and dusted ?
Well there are similarities.
Critical position in the team where we have already let go a senior player, and have pretty much made obvious that the player in question is the only one we are on for.

Didn't help us with the transfer fee for Mendy / Walker and same with Jorginho but wouldn't complain about 10-15 m more as long as we get him and he dies the job.
 
It does confuse me a bit that Jorginho's alternative would be Fred.

Does Fred even have the same traits, especially in terms of passing?


I see Fred is a direct replacement/cover for Fern and Jorginho a direct replacement for Yaya....guess it comes down to which role Pep wants to strengthen!
 
It does confuse me a bit that Jorginho's alternative would be Fred.

Does Fred even have the same traits, especially in terms of passing?
He's obviously not an alternative, Weigl could be the one. I think it's just BS from France Football. According to Di Marzio, Fred to rags is a done deal.
 
He's obviously not an alternative, Weigl could be the one. I think it's just BS from France Football. According to Di Marzio, Fred to rags is a done deal.

Think your right mate on Fred to rags!....I actually like Fred better than Jorginho, partly because I think we need someone to cover/replace Fern but it would seem Pep wants someone to fill Yaya's role, so Jorginho makes the most sense....
 
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