Jorginho

Status
Not open for further replies.
colombia-mcfc said:
Jorginho is too weak. Napoli want to sell him because they know they have someone better in diawara. Diawara should be the player targeted, not Jorginho. He has the strength, pace, passing ability and is very young so can improve immensely under Pep
Click to expand...
He has 'some' passing ability. But doesn't have 'THE' passing ability or vision of Jorghino. It's not even close. They are far far far apart in thoae 2 categories..

I don't know why you'd paper over that like it's nothing. It's the whole fucking CAKE!
 
birchwoodgingerste said:
We are beung linked with jorginiho but got a sneaky feeling it could be diawarra weve been watching .yaya retires and we find perfect replacement.
Click to expand...

Interesting thought but i'm not so sure

Watched Diawarra a couple times in the limited games he has as Napoli & before at Bologna.

Actually very similar to Dinho in he's strong & agressive in his tackles & tidying up in midfield. However, Jorginho is the far more accomplished passer of the ball out of the two which I think Pep desires first & foremost. But he doesn't seem as strong in his challenges as Diawarra.
 
Dax777 said:
He has 'some' passing ability. But doesn't have 'THE' passing ability or vision of Jorghino. It's not even close. They are far far far apart in thoae 2 categories..

I don't know why you'd paper over that like it's nothing. It's the whole fucking CAKE!
Click to expand...
Well said. It's football, not athletics. The ability to solve little tactical 'riddles' in a fraction of a second is what separates the best from the rest.

Jorginho is arguably Napoli's most intelligent performer, the majority of their players execute predetermined moves like robots and look 'deceiving', i.e. better than they are in terms of vision and passing ability. The exceptions are, IMO, Jorginho and Koulibaly who are given more freedom to make decisions (or at least that's my impression).

Jorginho was the best player on the pitch vs Sweden, playing for a disfunctional Italy side for the first time. The guy is a system in itself, like Busquets or Xavi.

Diawara isn't even close in terms of decision-making, and @colombia-mcfc is somehow missing the simple fact that Diawara is Jorginho's backup. City reportedly scouted Diawara at Bologna and decided to pass on him.
 
Last edited:
Dax777 said:
He has 'some' passing ability. But doesn't have 'THE' passing ability or vision of Jorghino. It's not even close. They are far far far apart in thoae 2 categories..

I don't know why you'd paper over that like it's nothing. It's the whole fucking CAKE!
Click to expand...

Not only is it the cake, it’s the whole fucking point of the game in Peps eyes.
 
nmc said:
Not only is it the cake, it’s the whole fucking point of the game in Peps eyes.
Click to expand...

There is too much one sided opinion on this.

Jorginho is actually pretty good at making interceptions & breaking up play, as well as passing the ball, which is why Pep has been looking at players who can do that, to play that position, & has played Fernandinho there as first choice for two years, rather than signing a purely passing player, or just putting David or Bernardo Silva there, which he could do on any given day, if passing the ball was the 'whole' cake.

It 100% clearly isn't.
 
Neville Kneville said:
There is too much one sided opinion on this.

Jorginho is actually pretty good at making interceptions & breaking up play, as well as passing the ball, which is why Pep has been looking at players who can do that, to play that position, & has played Fernandinho there as first choice for two years, rather than signing a purely passing player, or just putting David or Bernardo Silva there, which he could do on any given day, if passing the ball was the 'whole' cake.

It 100% clearly isn't.
Click to expand...
Stop being obtuse. In a response to a claim of why a poster thinks we should get Diawara over Jorghino, and he argues they both can pass, but Diawara is more athletic, stronger and faster misses the point. The reason why Pep would want Jorghino over Diawara is because Jorghino is far superior passing the ball and his vision is far superior.

The reason we know that's the 'Cake' is because Diawara is actually better at all the other stuff. So if Pep wants Jorghino, in spite of Diawara being more athletic, stronger, bigger and has more pace- it's because none of those attrivuatt are the 'Key' attribute that tilts the choice..

Hence why one is inclined to think that must be the CAKE. This however doesn't suggest one is arguing Jorghino can't tackle or intercept. To even suggest that's been proposed is silly.
 
Dax777 said:
Stop being obtuse. In a response to a claim of why a poster thinks we should get Diawara over Jorghino, and he argues they both can pass, but Diawara is more athletic, stronger and faster misses the point. The reason why Pep would want Jorghino over Diawara is because Jorghino is far superior passing the ball and his vision is far superior.

The reason we know that's the 'Cake' is because Diawara is actually better at all the other stuff. So if Pep wants Jorghino, in spite of Diawara being more athletic, stronger, bigger and has more pace- it's because none of those attrivuatt are the 'Key' attribute that tilts the choice..

Hence why one is inclined to think that must be the CAKE. This however doesn't suggest one is arguing Jorghino can't tackle or intercept. To even suggest that's been proposed is silly.
Click to expand...

You are posting this pedantic drivel just as we get 100 points ?

Get a fucking life.
 
Does anyone see us playing different personel in midfield if jorginho arrives? Given his ability to play as a deep playmaker I could see Gundogan havens bigger role next season making his late runs into the box.
 
I think we will see one or more of the wide players become a central striker as cover and or replacement for Aguero when he decides to leave.
 
g180aj said:
No idea on specific names but City have started printing a load of No6 shirts ready for a signing
Click to expand...
Last person that said this was a itk on Twitter that deleated his/her account after he/her got the team selection wrong that “his source” told him was the starting 11
 
Thorin Oakenshield said:
Does anyone see us playing different personel in midfield if jorginho arrives? Given his ability to play as a deep playmaker I could see Gundogan havens bigger role next season making his late runs into the box.
Click to expand...
The expectation is that Gundogan plays more and David Silva less. Similarly, Jorghino plays more and Dihno less.

Assuming both Ilkay (improves) and Jurghino hits the ground running.

In essence our middle 6 will be (Kevin, Ilkay and Jorghino as starters and David, Dihno and Foden as the backups)
 
Dax777 said:
The expectation is that Gundogan plays more and David Silva less. Similarly, Jorghino plays more and Dihno less.

Assuming both Ilkay (improves) and Jurghino hits the ground running.

In essence our middle 6 will be (Kevin, Ilkay and Jorghino as starters and David, Dihno and Foden as the backups)
Click to expand...


After one of his best seasons for the club what makes you think David wont be in the starting line up? Could probably say the same for Dihno as well.
 
I always thought Bernardo was Silva's replacement. I agree he will play less but I am not sure he will be seen as backup same with Dhino I believe there will be a gradual handing over process so that maybe next year the roles will be reversed. It will enable Jorghino to acclimatise to prem league.
 
Rammyblues said:
I always thought Bernardo was Silva's replacement. I agree he will play less but I am not sure he will be seen as backup same with Dhino I believe there will be a gradual handing over process so that maybe next year the roles will be reversed. It will enable Jorghino to acclimatise to prem league.
Click to expand...
That was my understanding too, and I assume that is why we are after another attacker who can rotate with Sane and Sterling. Getting Mahrez or Bailey would free up Bernado to focus more on rotating with David Silva. I think Pep already said that David Silva will play less next season.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top