Josko Gvardiol

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60 games, world cup, 5 subs and a history of CB with injurie issues, any top player who is hungry would die to join our club.
Potentially 65, guaranteed 46. Anyone coming in has to be sold on starting less, and playing less than they are now. Just a fact they will have to accept the rotation aspect of the setup, some wont want to, some wont care.
 
60 games, world cup, 5 subs and a history of CB with injurie issues, any top player who is hungry would die to join our club.
Ake got 1700 minutes last season I don't know why people are pretending like whoever is coming is going to be happy with that. Look how many players want to leave us now because they are not getting minutes, players with elite mentality, winners like jesus and sterling. if you're a good player and you have a choice between being a guaranteed starter for idk, chelsea or a 4th choice for city, I'd argue more players would choose chelsea.
 
Ake got 1700 minutes last season I don't know why people are pretending like whoever is coming is going to be happy with that. Look how many players want to leave us now because they are not getting minutes, players with elite mentality, winners like jesus and sterling. if you're a good player and you have a choice between being a guaranteed starter for idk, chelsea or a 4th choice for city, I'd argue more players would choose chelsea.

What about '4th choice' at City and guaranteed starter at Liepzig or Sevilla?

1700 minutes if true isn't that terrible, played in 27 games. Wasn't available a good few games too through injury. And wasn't as good as the other 3. I imagine most players will back their quality and fitness to beat that. They should.
 
What about '4th choice' at City and guaranteed starter at Liepzig or Sevilla?

1700 minutes if true isn't that terrible, played in 27 games. Wasn't available a good few games too through injury. And wasn't as good as the other 3. I imagine most players will back their quality and fitness to beat that. They should.
His thought process could be "I could wait a year and be a starter for chelsea/bayern/madrid/PSG or I could move to city now and get 1700 minutes" and I don't blame him for backing himself to not accept a lesser role to begin with. It's not small menality, it's knowing your abilities
 
What about '4th choice' at City and guaranteed starter at Liepzig or Sevilla?

1700 minutes if true isn't that terrible, played in 27 games. Wasn't available a good few games too through injury. And wasn't as good as the other 3. I imagine most players will back their quality and fitness to beat that. They should.
Made 19 starts though, most players we are looking at made 35-40 last season, its a tricky sell, RB & Sevilla are both Champions League clubs.
 
Ake got 1700 minutes last season I don't know why people are pretending like whoever is coming is going to be happy with that. Look how many players want to leave us now because they are not getting minutes, players with elite mentality, winners like jesus and sterling. if you're a good player and you have a choice between being a guaranteed starter for idk, chelsea or a 4th choice for city, I'd argue more players would choose chelsea.

Just on that, if the thinking (not yours alone, a few have mooted that) is that players wouldn't accept limited minutes, then why would our academy kids accept that too? Surely it is just as important if not more so for them to play more and they would rather seek guaranteed experience elsewhere than be a back-up back-up here. Which would only leave close to retirement payers on their last paycheck shot at glory.
 
His thought process could be "I could wait a year and be a starter for chelsea/bayern/madrid/PSG or I could move to city now and get 1700 minutes" and I don't blame him for backing himself to not accept a lesser role to begin with. It's not small menality, it's knowing your abilities

True. Guess we'll see who the club target and what their thoughts are, whoever we go for will be backing themselves I'm sure and not coming here thinking 1700 minutes is the height of their ambition.
 
Ake got 1700 minutes last season I don't know why people are pretending like whoever is coming is going to be happy with that. Look how many players want to leave us now because they are not getting minutes, players with elite mentality, winners like jesus and sterling. if you're a good player and you have a choice between being a guaranteed starter for idk, chelsea or a 4th choice for city, I'd argue more players would choose chelsea.
Depends what they want & Jack wanted to play ucl football & if they see it as a temporary stop, Ake a 2 times title winner can now decide whether he wants more game time at Chelsea. Nathan at Bournemouth like Phillips while at Leeds & Grealish at Villa would never of got a sniff of a league medal. Similar to when Delph was here, quite happy to get opportunity to win things even if doesnt mean being 1st choice.
 
Just on that, if the thinking (not yours alone, a few have mooted that) is that players wouldn't accept limited minutes, then why would our academy kids accept that too? Surely it is just as important if not more so for them to play more and they would rather seek guaranteed experience elsewhere than be a back-up back-up here. Which would only leave close to retirement payers on their last paycheck shot at glory.
I could see a younger CB who can cover a couple of roles, take the spot. Banking the idea 'I want to improve/be the best' and Pep will do that. Get a football education now, if i cant displace one of the 3 etc move on later.
 
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